I live in a dry climate and very tightly meter my water usage and running the dishwasher twice uses less water than doing it once by hand unless I am extremely careful and use a single basin of water and a rag to rinse. That takes longer and is extremely annoying to do.
Where problem?
Am I married to your daughter?
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I have created a monster.
The woman I married stuffed the dishwasher like that. Just tossed stuff in, unrinsed. Wherever it would fit and still allow the drawers to close.
I had to clean out the filter twice in one month and asked her to rinse. Bowls would turn over and fill with nasty water, so I asked her to stack them in such a way so they wouldn’t.
The woman I’m married to now has a fucking system. I don’t fully know it and I dare not do it wrong. Meal prep bowls go on top, lids, on the bottom. Forks and spoons have a very specific place and so help you God if you put the sauce pan in the wrong orientation.
Fuckin hell I love that woman
Pre rinsing actually makes the dishwasher do a worse job, a big part of the dishwasher detergent is to latch on to dirt and grime so when the water sprayer comes it can more easily clean it off
If you prerinse there’s a lot less surface area for the detergent to do it’s job. You’re supposed to clean the filter about once a month, so twice isn’t too unusual.
HOWEVER that being said
Just tossed stuff in,
unrinsed. Wherever it would fit and still allow the drawers to close.That’s the unforgivable part
I’m mostly concerned with the large particles of food that couldn’t make it through the filter and just clogged it up. Dishes aren’t going in even remotely clean.
Why would you put clean dishes in the dishwasher?
Why does the guy at the automatic car wash hit my car with a pressurized hose before entering?
Beacuse they are wasting water? That doesn’t happen where I live.
Ah, if they’re large enough to be scrapeable, like beans or pasta, then absolutely scrape into the trashcan/garbage disposal.
But rinsing just takes away too much, I’ve made one exception though and that’s with spaghetti, idk what it is maybe the combination of tomato sauce and pasta but if I don’t rinse in that situation everything is just nasty after the cycle
I swear, the people obsessed with enforcing one right way to do… everything.
It looks exhausting.
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There are correct and incorrect ways to load a dishwasher. Mainly allowing for water to be able to reach all surfaces and drain away from the objects.
Take a closer look. There are multiple instances in those photos that show that those two simple conditions aren’t met.
Engage that brain you claim to have.
risking self poisoning for assuming dishes are clean when it’s not clean because of improper cleaning, now all the crap gets stuck and mixed in with assumed clean dishes/utensils
I’ve never had that problem with my dishwashers when they were utilised properly.
Hell newer ones even have a sanitizer function if you are worried about hardy bacteria.
If you can’t trust your dishwasher, learn to use it properly, get a new one or wash all your dishes by hand.
These machines are labour saving devices, pre-washing adds labour.
They’re pre-rinsed and clean enough.
If it makes you happy though, awesome!
dishwashers do the pre-rinsing, it’s part of the cycle, that’s why there’s a latch for the detergent which drops in after the rinse cycle.
Pre rinsing actually makes the dishwasher do a worse job, a big part of the dishwasher detergent is to latch on to dirt and grime so when the water sprayer comes it can more easily clean it off
If you prerinse there’s a lot less surface area for the detergent to do it’s job
What? A decent dishwasher shouldn’t need pre-washing or rinsing.
Give your head a shake.
My brother in Christ, are we viewing the same image? Thems dishes is nasty
Don’t blame the parent… Kids don’t do anything when they know someone else will fix it for them.
Once I moved out, I magically had to do everything myself, and my parents were shocked that I actually kept my house clean, lol
+1 on this one
Edit: you being downvoted tells me there’s a group of people who haven’t seen adult children revert to child when visiting their childhood home…
Lol, I know
Well it just doesn’t make sense. “don’t blame the parent, they’re just enabling bad behavior.” ??? Don’t enable the bad behavior
You really don’t understand how to deal with kids, or you’ve never had experience, or you don’t remember yourself when younger it seems
Except that this is OP’s “adult” daughter. He’s not dealing with kids anymore. He’s enabling an adults shit behavior.
I took it to mean that she’s not a teen but still lives at home, or he considers her an adult, not sure
Sounds like a parenting problem.
Don’t blame the parent… Kids don’t do anything when they know someone else will fix it for them.
I will blame the parent because its the parent who usually fixes it for them.
Parents want to show their kid what’s wrong, and want to keep their own sanity and house clean.
Clearly they didn’t do a good job. Instead of showing them what’s wrong, show them what’s right.
Kids don’t do anything when they know someone else will fix it for them.
And who exactly would be responsible for enabling that behavior?
Nothing is enabled, if you want to shout at a kid non stop until they do something, THAT’S bad parenting.
Who said anything about shouting?
How would you solve it, because obviously the parent told their kid how to load a dishwasher if they’re at least putting stuff inside of it to begin with.
The same way I would teach an apprentice. Telling them what they got right, what they got wrong and how it was wrong, and then how to improve for a better result.
What fucking dysfunctional system are you from that shouting is your go to?
What fucking dysfunctional system are you from that shouting is your go to?
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Task the kid with something you never taught them how to do
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Kid fails because they don’t know how to do the thing
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Shout at them because you don’t know other parenting methods
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Do it yourself
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Lessons successfully taught to your child: it’s normal to not teach your children, it’s okay to shout, you can’t do anything as well as your parents, you can use your inability to do things to force others to do them
Hey, thank your parents next time you see them, I think they might’ve helped raise my ex girlfriend.
Holy shit, I know this comment is likely to be modded away, but fuck you are delusional and making shit up and ignoring context.
At NO POINT was it implied that the person didn’t have exposure or instruction.
Go sit in a fucking corner and think about what you have fucking said.
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Lmao, ok dude, calm down
Please tell me where in the above comment I was agitated.
What’s wrong?
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Many dishwashers will clean all of that fine, in my experience. The annoying part is the cups or bowls that may fill with water, just make sure they’re upside down.
As far as scraping or rinsing things…. Nah. Haven’t done it since I worked in food service and saw what dishwashers could do. Some stuff needs scraped, sure, but most will come off under the detergent and hot water.
Haven’t done it since I worked in food service and saw what dishwashers could do.
I’m a chef. If you were my dishwasher and you insisted on chucking food in, I’d insist on sacking you! They’re not designed to take food and you end up making more work for yourself cleaning it all out and getting it fixed and all that palaver.
Okay well I worked fast food and now I’m a software engineer so I don’t see myself being fired by a chef any time soon
I chuck food into my own home dishwasher all the time and no problem, so maybe you just aren’t doing it right lol
Hey chef: if enough plates are coming back with enough food on them to break the dishwasher maybe it’s time to work on the recipes eh?
Very drole, but I find it hard to believe you don’t understand the concept of a lot of small problems adding up to a big one.
Except the aluminum pan in the back. Don’t put car aluminum in the washer. The soap hurts it.
Also don’t use pans to hold professional solvents while trying to scrub factory oil off of foot long pipes. That can really do some damage
All I remember is: don’t stick a fork in the toaster
People don’t know how to use dishwashers. What’s the point of using a dishwasher if you’re going to clean the dishes beforehand…
It’s not necessarily washing them first, but I do get the “chunks” out. As the only person in the house who remembers that the food doesn’t just magically disappear, and eventually has to clean the filter, I prefer to do the cleaning before the food gets to the filter. Everyone else, on the other hand, seems perfectly content to put a half-full bowl of spaghetti in the dishwasher.
You can clean nearly every single dish beforehand or pull one strainer out and clean it. You have chosen the path of pain.
Rinsing them well is the path of pain only if the water is too hot.
Galaxy brain right here
I see you’ve never spent extended periods of time with shitty dishwashers and hard water
At a certain point it stops being a dishwasher and works better as a drying rack. It’s the sorta shitty dishwashers that bother me most where I can still save time by partially processing the dishes but somehow like 1/5 of them come out worse than how they went in.
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That’s presumptuous. Some dishwashers are legit trash that wouldn’t even hold water if not for 20 years of getting the landlord white paint treatment. Probably some of the sorta working ones when I was younger could have done better with proper detergent habits but I know how to use them now and still run into it
If the dishwasher is broken, then yes obviously it won’t work.
I have hard water, there’s salt and a setting depending on hardness.
Generic detergent and rinse aid and I never have dirty dishes.
Oh come on you don’t need salt for hard water. Just raise the temperature a bit.
People just use salt on sidewalks because heating them isn’t feasible. But in the kitchen, it’s much easier to eliminate hard water but just warming things up.
Lemi Shine works great with my water drawn from limestone.
What’s the point of using a dishwasher if you’re going to clean the dishes beforehand…
Wiping off food debris =\= “cleaning the dishes”
Scrape it off into the trash with whatever utensils you used to make/eat the meal. The sink doesn’t need to be involved.
I agree but a silicone scraper is plenty! Water need not be wasted.
Okay not sure about this based on on the other responses but…sure why not, so here goes:
“It looks like you already have”.:-P
This comment section is saucier than OP’s dirty dishwasher!
But who taught her to load the dish washer?
From you dad! I learned it from you!
Every time my dad has something to say about me I say that.
Who was responsible for raising me again? YOU WERE, you judgemental turd.
Nice! And when you grow up you can use the same excuse when beating up your wife. “Look at what YOU made me do!” Remember kids, it’s aways somebody else’s fault 👍
Funfact: domestic abuse is strongly tied to a previous history of abuse, or simply put, the perpetrators learned to do it while they were the victims, often from their parents.
And in a society where mental health access is practically nonexistent, there aren’t many ways for someone to break the cycle. I guess pretending it’s just a personal failure instead of a societal one is nice because it eliminates any burden on oneself.
You have brought shame on your bloodline with your failed attempts at raising a child.
Why are you on Lemmy asking children for parenting advice? Seems like most responses are blaming you as if an adult needs to be taught something as rudimentary as loading a dishwasher. Simple solution, box up all the plates, cups, silverware. Replace with disposable stuff
I don’t think you need to parent an adult child.
Sometimes you do, you don’t stop being a parent after your child turns 18. You can still try and help them especially if you think something this simple has been done wrong. Shaming your child online because of how they load the dishwasher is just stupid.
You are surely one of these children it seems.
Comments like these make me feel i never left reddit
What a strange sentence
I don’t know the demographics of Lemmy, but children are the minority here…
You could always just kill her and eat her organs.
Or just educate her.