• GBU_28@lemm.ee
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      10 months ago

      Even if you can’t agree Russian civilians are innocent, children absolutely are.

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          10 months ago

          I get what you’re doing, trying to play around the wording.

          Just cut it out, no one is apologizing for what the Russian military is doing.

          That said, Russian children are not responsible for those atrocities, and 2 wrongs don’t make a right.

          Ukraine defending their country is obviously just. Ukraine hunting children with UXO is not. Luckily Ukrainian leadership knows this.

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            10 months ago

            I get what you’re doing, trying to play around the wording.

            No, I’m agreeing with you while taking the opportunity to remind everyone what absolute scum Russians are.

            no one is apologizing for what the Russian military is doing.

            Exactly. Someone should apologize.

            And I also see what you’re doing, putting all the blame on the military like Putin was not generally loved in Russia before the war. Russian are pissed only because now they also have to die. If Putin only murdered Ukrainians they would still happily support him and his war.

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              10 months ago

              Lol dude get a grip.

              You literally played with the wording of the second statement of mine that you quoted.

              Russian children are not scum.

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                10 months ago

                WTF? Whataboutism would be if you said “Russians killed Ukrainian children” and I replied with “But what about Russian children!”. I said “yes, children are innocent, ESPECIALLY Ukrainian children”. I’m playing especialism you dufus.

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              10 months ago

              If he was actually generally loved in Russia why were the last few elections so obviously tampered with?

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                10 months ago

                Because he needs to pretend support for him is absolute while in reality only vast majority supports him. Because he cannot allow any opposition to grow in Russia in case he makes a mistake, like he did with Ukraine. Because if there’s any sign of weakness even his allies will turn against him in a heartbeat.

                He’s tampering with elections to move it from 70-80% to 100%, not to move it from 10% to 100%. It’s lower since the war didn’t go as planned but most Russians supported Putin and his war.

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                  10 months ago

                  Yeah… He got 77% of the vote even after ballot stuffing and barring his real opposition from running. So your math doesn’t align with reality though.

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                    10 months ago

                    You’re right, I was wrong by 20%. His support is around 50% and he’s pushing it to 70%. Does this mean he’s not supported by general public? 40-50% is as much as any government gets really.

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        10 months ago

        So, you’re saying it’s okay for Russia to bomb Ukrainian children, but if Ukraine returns fire, THEY’RE the bad guys?

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        No it’s not. But are you referring even a little to the 3000 “russian” civilians from the start of the conflict in 2014? Where 2500 died in Ukrainian government controlled land. I bet the Ukrainian government was shelling their own side right? Besides the fact that the Ukrainians have considered all those civilians their own citizens. I guess when separatists kill civilians its not on them.

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              Don’t wanna be killed by a far off nation for money? Simply do not let someone from a nearby country commit a terrorist attack you had nothing to do with.

              Are you stupid? America was the invader. You really think america can just deploy the entire force of its military in another country and not have anyone fight back using whatever means necessary?

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                  Dawg you can’t seriously believe every single Russian is a fascist. I’m concerned for the citizens of Russia who do not genuinely control the actions of their government and military. I am concerned for the generations that come after them that had nothing to do with any of it that will still be exploded by bombs not yet found.