one assessment suggests that ChatGPT, the chatbot created by OpenAI in San Francisco, California, is already consuming the energy of 33,000 homes. It’s estimated that a search driven by generative AI uses four to five times the energy of a conventional web search. Within years, large AI systems are likely to need as much energy as entire nations.

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    Really? Which specific city?

    Or do you not understand that taking 6% of one specific city’s water is very different from taking that same amount of water distributed around the world?

    Also, should AI not be criticized for wasting water? Just TVs? Are there other industries where wasting large amounts of water should be ignored?

    Maybe any company using up 6% or more of a city’s municipal water system shouldn’t be allowed to do so regardless of what industry they’re in. What do you think?

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      Which specific city is ChatGPT getting its water from?

      Here’s a hint: there isn’t one, that’s referring to it’s overall usage, all around the world. It runs in Azure data centers where it is a tiny fraction of their overall compute load and water usage.

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            The only thing that is clear is that you seem to think you’re entitled to multiple responses when you reply to a single post of mine multiple times.

            That… and the fact that you aren’t denying that you believe corporations should be expected to do whatever they want as long as no one makes it illegal.

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      Maybe the city should charge an appropriate amount for its water so that a business can plan it’s operations effectively?

      Maybe the reason people aren’t mad at AI companies is because they understand that this is a failing of public officials and regulators, not of a business for using water that it pays the city for.

      And most importantly: which specific city is ChatGPT getting its water from?

      Here’s a hint: there isn’t one since it all runs in Azure data centers.

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        Ah, got it, companies can do as much ecological damage at they want to and it’s the regulators fault if nothing is done about it. Also, people shouldn’t get mad at corporations for wanting to do that ecological damage just because they’re allowed to.

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          Why arent you mad at video games? Are you protesting Nintendo and Sony? Their consoles consume far more power than ChatGPT.

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              9 months ago

              Since apparently it wasn’t clear, I was referring to the comment two above this one in the chain.

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                Whereas, I was referring to this comment, which you had nothing substantive to say about:

                Presumably because you think it’s justifiable for companies to do whatever they feel like as long as its legal and receive no criticisms for it.

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                  Nope, again, you missed it, it was the comment four above this one, the one about Sony and Nintendo.

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                    I didn’t miss anything. Especially not the part where you, once again, do not deny that you think it’s justifiable for companies to do whatever they feel like as long as its legal and should receive no criticisms for it.