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I mean it’s not like folks haven’t been trying. Saudi Arabia has been bombing them for quite a few years to quite little effect.
Have you not paid attention to their situation in the last decade at all? They’ve been bombed, starved to a famine and everything else that could be thought up with the help of Saudi Arabia and the US. If you think people have been “playing nice” with them so far you’re incredibly far off.
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What the fuck does any of that have to do with what I said? You seemed to be under the impression that the Houthis or Yemen in general weren’t already despised and under attack by both their closest neighbor and the most powerful military in the world. I corrected your misunderstanding. Don’t put (moronic) words in my mouth because you failed to do the absolute minimum research before commenting on something (again).
Then again look what happened to ISIS when the rest of the world finally stepped in for real. While it’s not completely wiped out, ISIS is FAR from where it was at their peak power.
Good.
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Do random people in the US own large cargo vessels?
Let’s see how far you can stretch this pathetic little excuse of a metaphor, shall we?
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Does every large cargo vessel belong to a country that is actively aiding and abetting genocide?
Go on… stretch it. Make sure you keep your eye on it… and wide open.
Why?
Why not?
Any country supporting Israel deserves to have all it’s ships sent to the bottom of the ocean.
Terrorist .
Its true. Even in wars there is a rule of law. Attacking civilians is forbidden. But that thought of sparing non-combattants doesn’t seem to apply in this case in the eyes of some very just people who rightfully codemn a genocide. Dehumanizing as a response to dehumanization… It’s ironic.
Terrorist .
Better a (so-called) “terrorist” than a fascist sympathizer.
How were they supporting Israel?
Does that ship not belong to a British corporation?
So belonging equals supporting and justifies destructive action?
So belonging equals supporting and justifies destructive action?
You mean… like belonging to a people living on land coveted by a white supremacist settler-colonial project justifies destructive action?
The answer you were looking for is “no, belonging does not equal supporting”.
How exactly, with detail, does that make them a target?
Is the UK supporting genocide?
Yes? No?
Idk. I know the US is but if you would like to present some evidence about the UK, I would be willing to look at it.
"The private security firm Ambrey reported the British-registered, Lebanese-operated cargo ship had been on its way to Bulgaria after leaving Khorfakkan in the United Arab Emirates. "
This ship didn’t have a damn thing to do with Israel.
I’m sure the assistant engineer had a smartphone with a bookmark to a webpage about something that was made by Israel. So there.
Not sure if you paid any attention the last months but the Brits joined America in their war on Yemen. They started bombing Yemen along with America to help israel’s Genocide.
And Britain subsequently got put on the Blocked Countries list
It’s truly astounding that you think Britain should just be able to bomb Yemen and not expect retaliation.
How do the cool libs say it again, FAFO?
This was a Lebanese operated, British registered ship. I think the Houthis, supposedly in opposition to Israel, just killed people from Lebanon… which is also in opposition to Israel.
This is yet another reason why you don’t attack civilians. In a globalized world, people from any country can be working “under the flag” of another country. They just attacked civilians of a nation that has also been attacked by Israel.
Lebanon would be in full rights to attack the Houthis in retaliation. As you put it, they fucked around, and they may find out.
I think the Houthis, supposedly in opposition to Israel, just killed people from Lebanon… which is also in opposition to Israel.
The Houthis have not killed a single person so far during their entire blockade. All crews dismounted their ships on life boats
people from Lebanon… which is also in opposition to Israel
???
All crews dismounted their ships on life boats
That’s surprisingly considerate.
I really wish they’d stop referring to the Houthis as “rebels”. Like, it is technically correct. They are rebelling against the globally recognized government in the country they live in. But it gives the impression that this is a rag tag group of dudes with a few AKs instead of the reality which is that they are decently funded military with a territory the size of Ireland under their control.
They are called Ansar Allah. You’re spot on about the rag tag look, though, and that’s propaganda to make them seem illegitimate and hide the fact that they have widespread support in their country (which, incidentally, rose during the Saudi led and U.S. backed demolition of Yemen over the past 8 or so years). People who are paying attention will notice a discrepancy between words (rag tag Houthi rebels shoot rockets indiscriminately at passing ships) and actions (we need a 12 or however many country coalition to go after these guys and will probably end up continuing to bomb one of the poorest countries on the planet with the most advanced arsenal the world has ever seen).
I do like what another commenter said, though. Something along the lines of “let the Marshall Islands and Belize military go protect those ships, don’t use our tax money to protect the property of tax evaders”.
So if the term they use is correct but you don’t like it, what would you like them to say?
Houthi militia, Houthi army, Houthi military…
You know, whatever.
Hope they rain down hell on these motherfuckers
In every official statement they say that their attacks will continue until “the Israeli aggression on the Gaza Strip stops, and medicine and food enter the Strip.” With the entry of the international coalition to fight against Yemen, the Houthis announced that American and British targets in the Red Sea also were legitimate targets.
Their “demands” are pretty reasonable. They are a pretty shit (islamic) regime but they are “just” imposing sanctions against Israel.
The ICJ order states that Israel HAS to stop killing Palestinians and provide humanitarian aid. So Yemen imposing sanctions is legally absolutely justified. Instead the US and all the countries removing funding from UNWRA are making themselves complicit in genocide.
So it’s the US and the UK who are the aggressors here. They have also attached the Houthis for a decade. Also note that the Houthies are not a proxy for Iran, and what they are doing here is in their own political interest to stay popular with their own people. Israel is really fucking up the region.
What kind of drugs are you eating to make bombing civilian vessels and killing really innocent people sounds okay because something somewhere else is happening. It’s as if I keep beating your ass until mayor of your city bans flower pots on the streets. Completely insane and disconnected.
Afaik, nobody died except for Yemenis.
But Saudi Arabia and the US really has killed a lot of them. They really should be ashamed of themselves /s
Load of malarkey. It’s like saying Black Beard had a point and pirates are a good thing.
I know! It IS fucking crazy! But here we are! Israel is committing genocide, US and EU is aiding them and the Islamists are doing the right thing to impose sanctions and are attacked for it! It really is a farce.
But it would be more like saying if Black Beard was saying “I’ll stop the blockade as soon as you agree to a ceasefire and stop murdering these innocent civilians over there”. Kinda like a broken clock being right twice a day thing.
It’s not crazy, it’s BS.
More than 10.000 children have died in Gaza. Over a 1000 had to have limbs amputated. Often without anaesthetic. But Israel keeps bombing hospitals and the US president and the EU keeps backing them. That’s BS.
You know a lot of arab-american voters in Michigan think this is BS too. Hey, it’s only a very narrow swing state… Glad the Dems are effective at telling them that they are just being stupid.
Enforcing sanctions against Israel? That isn’t, just from a legal perspective. This is how you enforce sanctions, how the US does it. And If you’d poll the people in the region they would overwhelmingly support of that. Even if you are fervently pro US empire, you have to realize that the wheels are becoming a bit wobbly.
No. It’s not like that.
Ever hear of the Barbary Wars? It’s like that.
might actually be an achievement if it wasn’t a defenseless cargo ship crewed by civilians.
Wake me up when they pick a fight with a vessel that can fight back… cowards
That’s not the point of terrorism. You don’t pick fights with those that can fight back. You do it to make others fear you. And the fact that a lot of ships are going around the horn of Africa instead of through the Red Sea means the their terrorism is working.
It’s a legitimate military strategy to disrupt trade and supply.
I don’t condone this by any means but “terrorism” is not a synonym for “violence we don’t like”.
This is terrorism, it’s asymmetric warfare by a military that controls a territory the size of Ireland.
The west has been involved in bombing Yemen for years now.
We call it strikes against “terrorists” and “rebels” but if you live there it’s just war.
It’s worth noting that there are only 2 ways a war ends. A negotiated peace, or one side being wiped out. I’d rather we didn’t wipe out a large part of a country. So I’d like us to skip straight to diplomatic talks.
Our first demand would likely be to de-escalate and cease violence.
The first demand from the Houthis would probably be to stop supplying Saudi Arabia with weapons to use against them. And also to cease violence.
Beyond that it gets complicated. Not a simplistic story of terrorists and bogeymen.
Houthis: No
now what?
The Houthis already make demands. No side of any conflict just says “no”
But by all means if they did say no to stopping violence when we stop bombing Yemen there is a time to fight back.
Unfortunately it’s happened the opposite way around.
Yemen have asked the West and Saudi Arabia to stop bombing them and we’ve said “no”. So the Houthis have started fighting back.
That definition makes Israel terrorists against the Palestinians, which is… Spot on, actually.
Was it really a British ship, or was it a ship running under Liberian or Lagos or whatever cheap flag, but owned by a British company?
If it ran under the British flag, then it would have been the British marines’ job to defend it. OK.
If it ran under the Flag of Panama, Liberia, Lagos, or whatever, it would have been their responsibility.
None of the tax evasion flags countries have a ship there to defend what would be their duty to defend. Instead, we finance and endanger our military to protect tax evaders’ ships.
This says it’s under the Belize flag.
https://news.usni.org/2024/02/20/british-owned-cargo-ship-damaged-by-houthi-missiles-crew-evacuated
