• Bronzebeard@lemm.ee
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      5 months ago

      That’s like the opposite of a class action, which really doesn’t exist - closest is like a RICO case

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    Worth noting that he has not, at any point, denied it was a Nazi salute. Closest thing to a denial he’s done so far is reply, “Thank you,” to an ADL tweet defending him, and he immediately followed that up with a bunch of Nazi puns. Feels like that’s gonna hurt his case.

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    5 months ago

    I hope the Nazi does, so he has to describe how elon’s Nazi salute and the Nazis doing the Nazi salute are different.

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      You don’t lose the right, as an individual, to file lawsuits just because you’re working for the government. That’s not using the government’s authority; it’s something that’s available to any individual. Musk can sue without running into First Amendment restrictions on government action.

      However, he might have a harder time winning such a lawsuit insofar as he might be more of a public figure due to serving in the government. The bar for defamation is higher for public figures in the US.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defamation

      A series of court rulings led by New York Times Co. v. Sullivan, 376 U.S. 254 (1964) established that for a public official (or other legitimate public figure) to win a libel case in an American court, the statement must have been published knowing it to be false or with reckless disregard to its truth (i.e. actual malice).

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        Hard to argue he’s not a public figure already.

        Gertz v Welsh: He probably is an individual who has “…assumed roles of especial prominence in the affairs of society. Some occupy positions of such persuasive power and influence that they are deemed public figures for all purposes. More commonly, those classed as public figures have thrust themselves to the forefront of particular public controversies in order to influence the resolution of the issues involved. In either event, they invite attention and comment.”

        Not gonna check if that’s still good law. Westlaw, you are dead to me.

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    He never denied it.

    Would love if it would go to trial (he will make sure it won’t) and court deciding that it indeed a Nazi salute.

    There’s nothing even remotely similar, because in the past 80 years we were trying to make sure no one confused us accidentally with Nazis.

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      Yea, which is the damning part! The whole “misunderstanding” can be wrapped up by by a single sentence: Sorry guys, that wasn’t that and I hope nazis gonna get pegged by living electric poles!

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        He thinks, “can’t we all get beyond this Nazi stuff?” like he said in Germany, while promoting Nazis, is going to make it all go away.

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          The funny thing is in Germany, you can kinda punch a nazi! You can definitely punch one if you are jewish and you might be able to otherwise depending on the judge! In the past several attorneys argued successfully that even the mere presence of nazis can existentially be dangerous and feeling threatened is justified!

          I think it would be really funny if someone invited musky :3

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    Sorry this is from the dude that called someone rescuing people in a cave “pedo guy” because he didn’t get the chance to look like the hero?

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      Unfortunately he won that defamation case, probably mostly because the diver made the mistake of hiring future Trump side character Lin Wood.

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      musk got confused because he wanted his tor pedo to reduce the kids. Presumably to give them to his partner, long time friend of Epstein, rapist, and self-admitted lover of little girls donald trump.

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        Holy fuck. You think it was an Epstein thing? Like he said to Elon, “Get those kids out. Send a couple to the island and we can say they died.”

        [9]

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    Please. Let a court rule on whether a Nazi salute was made on US soil by a foreign actor in the current administration. Put it to the question. Then tell us if the court thinks that’s a problem.

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    I am Tim Walz. Musk is a Nazi and did multiple Nazi salutes. Not only that he supports Nazi’s in Germany. Musk is also a peace of human shit.