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This idea originated as a Stephen Colbert joke in 2010. As always I’m sure some will call this some sort of self-aware troll by Trump, but what are the odds of that.
Given Colbert took the absurdity of conservatism in the US and cranked it up to 11… I’m not surprised it’s becoming reality now.
One of my favorite funfacts about the Colbert Report is that many conservatives couldn’t tell it was satire.
So much so that Colbert earlier on was regularly invited to things like White House Dinner with Bush and Conservative Conferences. Even when he ended the show he claimed he had a lot of fan mail from Republicans saying they’d miss “Having a sane voice of reason on an otherwise liberal media network.”
Some Conservative Subreddits even had to have guidelines explaining he was satire, some claiming he was a straight up “Left Wing Disinformation Agent!”
That’s incredible.
I was quite conservative back in 2006, having been raised that way and still years away from my “enlightenment,” but I knew Colbert was satire. I still thought he was hilarious. I’ve always thought it’s important to be able to laugh at yourself.
Bush clearly felt the same, he was laughing right along with the roast, and had just finished doing a bit with a Bush impersonator that also roasted him.
But Trump is incapable of humility, and cannot stand the traditional presidential roast at the Press Correspondents’ Dinner.
WTF?
Mexico should rename Baja California to Península Pacífica.
That doesn’t make much sense, since Baja California was named California before the US-State which even belonged to Mexico back in the days.
If anything Trump is going to change California to Ivankia or Putinstan, but I guess at that point California will rather rejoin Mexico.
Makes as much sense as changing Gulf of Mexico to Gulf of America - which will go the way of Freedom Fries in 4 years anyway.
Time to stop using Google
Could someone explain to me why are people irritated by this? I’m a foreigner.
Because it’s a corporation bending over to the whims of a government trying to erase the name of a geographic place.
Because the president should have no say in naming geographic locations that have long agreed upon names. And it’s a waste of money to have to replace all the maps and books with updated names.
There’s also no reason for Google to change anything. The US government has no power to make Google use this new name instead of the widely agreed upon name.
It’s a nod to the fact that if Trump says jump google will say “how high?” And no one with any sense likes that bigot.
And it’s a waste of money to have to replace all the maps and books with updated names.
Who prints the books? They probably made a big contribution to Trump
That actually explains this stupidity doesn’t it …
Of course they will.
I don’t recommend Google Maps anymore. It’s a really shitty map. I’ve been reporting bugs for ages and they never fix them. Also the GPS is really terrible, it sets the road full of constant turns and forces you to drive on small narrow internal roads instead of normal open roads. The localisation option sucks too, it keeps showing me that I’m somewhere else and my position is always a few metres off and it’s so delayed that you don’t know if you’ve made a good turn or not unless you wait like half a minute. Also the glitches in the map, missing locations, blurry photos, random photos swapped around and extreme inconsistencies. It’s crazy that this shit is still being used. I bought a dedicated GPS for a car and in my phone and PC, I use OpenStreetMaps or its forks.
i think mexico should name gulf of california to gulf of mexico
Trump would be okay with that because it’s still a fuck you to the left coast.
You mean West coast?
I mean, if I’m facing south, the left coast is the East coast.
I mean, we all know Canadians see things wrong :P
Oh you got me good eh?
Conservatives like to call the West Coast the left coast. It’s their little way of making fun of progressive states.
Humanity is a joke.
Everyone report an error every day.
Why? Google does this everywhere because naming is completely arbitrary and it makes sense to be up to date with current nomenclature. Poland changed name of Kaliningrad (Russian exclave that we border) to Królewiec (what it was called when it was part of Poland) in a similar manner to troll Russians and Google updated our maps as well. Apple didn’t in either case so you have options.
Two reasons. Firstly, it’s the principle of the thing - fuck Google for sucking up to Orange Shitler. Secondly, because somebody, somewhere in Google gets to deal with the endless reporting - even if all that reaction is is to have to write a script to auto-ignore that exact thing because it keeps popping up and there’s nothing they can do to stop it.
Weird, google maps still shows it as Kaliningrad, along with the Cyrillic spelling.
It’s local, same as Gulf of America which is still Gulf of Mexico for me because that’s the official name here.
The Cyrillic still is Kaliningrad lol
That’s because we never bothered to learn those moon runes.
Almost spit my coffee out lol Dzięki za to. Pozdrawiam zza oceanu.
iirc it was not just to troll rusians, it was because it was found kalinin was a murderous psycho killing a lot of poles for the red army.
You underestimate our need to troll Russians.
“Completely arbitrary trolling”.
Give it negative reviews
Pathetic. Hopefully the rest of the world doesn’t follow suit. Renaming it just for one of Trump’s ego trips is not a good reason.
The rest of the world obviously will not follow suit, but foreign companies selling maps in the US will have to comply, so it is just another exception that need to be handled. Naming and boundary disputes between countries have existed for years, and map makers just make enough versions to satisfy every country.
Actually, I’m unclear on that point - do foreign companies actually have to comply, or is it just limited to government communications and government-published maps (e.g. the USGS, etc.)?
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Only if the maps will be accessed from the US or sold in the US, and only for the US. This is my understanding of it anyways, the coming days will reveal more
Surely I am allowed to sell fictional maps? If I can sell a map of Middle-Earth, I can sell a map of a fictional world where a Gulf of Mexico exists.
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Most of them can’t even place their own damn country on a map.
If this was a different admin, it was an international agreement and the name change was to refer to the the continent, I’d be on board. As it stands, this looks like the sort of BS power play the CCP does with the South China Sea.
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Jesus fucking christ
@return2ozma we should collectively boycott this and call the Gulf of Turtle Island just to piss Mr. Orange off
Continuing to call it the gulf of mexico will piss him off more
The Gulf of Latin America
Gulf of the Americas
I’m ready to call the United States North Mexico or the Unincorporated British Colony of the Indies
This is so pathetic by Google.
They all bend the knee. Just wait until the persecution of political opposition becomes a thing.
Has nothing to do with bending the knee. The executive order literally changed the official name of the Gulf in the U.S. This situation is ridiculous, but it is the new U.S. government that you need to complain about, not the people implementing or deferring to their decisions.
Not legal
Obama renamed Mt. McKinley to Denali by executive order. Trump is using executive order to rename it back.
Biden outlawed oil rigs in the Gulf of Mexico. Trump used executive order to rename it so the Gulf of Mexico “doesn’t exist”.
It’s all questionable use of executive order. But which party is going to step up and say “the last guy did it, but our guy shouldn’t be able to ignore checks & balances anymore”?
Biden outlawed oil rigs in the Gulf of Mexico. Trump used executive order to rename it so the Gulf of Mexico “doesn’t exist”.
I’d be very surprised if all laws/treaties cease to exist if you just rename the “counterparty”/location. Declare Mexico to be named South Texas, and laws no longer apply there?
Probably true.
But until a court actually steps up to say it, it’s the Wild West out there. And as soon as this gets shot down, another executive order will get wedged back in there to keep the rigs drilling.
The difference is that it’s intentional waters and the International Hydrographic Organization is in charge of standardizing the names.
Actually very little of the gilf falls into international waters
gilf
I’ve heard of MILFs… but i’ve only seen GILFs in Japan. That’s not the geography we’re discussing here.
A line joining Cape Catoche Light (21°37′N 87°04′W) with the Light on Cape San Antonio in Cuba, through this island to the meridian of 83°W and to the Northward along this meridian to the latitude of the South point of the Dry Tortugas (24°35’N), along this parallel Eastward to Rebecca Shoal (82°35’W) thence through the shoals and Florida Keys to the mainland at the eastern end of Florida Bay and all the narrow waters between the Dry Tortugas and the mainland being considered to be within the Gulf.
The IHO proposes names which world nations may or may not use.
Such is the case with the “Southern Ocean” around Antarctica since the early 2000s, which is randomly recognized & not recognized by world nations.
It still requires Congress to pass legislation. I think they would have to leave the organization entirely or amend the resolution to join it and recognize it’s naming convention. The executive order is illegal.
Do. Not. Comply.
Giving in is what gives them the power.
I absolutely will call out people who think it’s ok to just go along with the new fascist regime.
International bodies of water tend to be named by… International governing bodies.
That said, Google’s choices about which country to rely on has… Some real-world ramifications. Like the very… shall we say, “open to interpretation” border between India and Pakistan. Or, China and India’s border.