On an unencrypted sd card that is removable.
Still an issue for me. I’ve switched to Voyager for visiting Lemmy but I still haven’t found the pictures I’ve saved.
Mine savea in internal storage and then folder Pictures.
Android has ways for app devs to specify where files get saved. App devs just usually don’t give a shit, because they want to write a single lowest common codebase for android and iOS.
Developers not bothering with Android features because they don’t exist on iOS is both infuriating and gives me IE6 era vibes.
IE6 era vibes
But… this is a nearly opposite situation, no? Microsoft added a bunch of their own shit with no attempt at standardization, and instead of simply not using those features, a ton of websites started making IE a hard requirement.
I’m not sure where things are on any device other than desktops tbh
Yes
I feel like this meme only makes sense for people who don’t know basic file system navigation…
Literally never had this problem, not once, starting at Android 2.3 when I got my first android phone. It’s literally just files and folders, like any other OS.
Sorta makes sense.
It’s like my generation not knowing how to fix cars because our fathers all did it.
some of them really don’t, but people in my circle (all of them gen z) are familiar to a degree. many of them use android phones and/or windows, which very much require that if you want to do anything useful.
Hey did you work with any of the fuchsia people who got laid off? Do you know if the project is planned to be cancelled any time soon?
I had a photo on my Galaxy I needed to delete, I had to delete it from three separate folders.
Is that a Samsung problem, not an Android problem?
Almost certainly, I for one don’t remember having to do it that on my Pure, but you can bet I was pretty pissed at everyone involved anyways.
Delete it all you like, if you run Google photos, it will still end up stuck in there.
Don’t use
someone else’s computerany cloud services…easy.You got me paranoid and I had to check!
No, as it happens, I have a habit of denying all the permissions I can so at least Google pretends it’s not in the cloud.
my opinion might be biased as someone who deliberately avoids samsung products because of horrible software and bad quality control (on some devices).
yes, that’s a samsung thing.
So I had a problem with this, and I am a cd… cd/ format . person who loves computer file systems.
I think what messed me up is that certain apps have different default save folders, and I wouldn’t know where they were or forget.
A given program having a default save location is true on any platform. The “My Documents” folder on windows is used for anything but. So many applications throw files in there it’s basically useless.
With Android, application files are kept in application specific locations, while user files basically always end up in Download or Pictures, sometimes, rarely, Documents. DCIM for system camera photos.
If you need to clear an applications files, that can be done via that apps page in settings.
The only difference I can see is that on phones, default file system behaviour is designed so that it gets out of most people’s way, while those of us who know how it works can still use a file explorer app just fine.
While normies rely on the default file picker showing a monolithic list of what’s on their phones in chronological order, we don’t have to. When that thing appears, you can find any file management apps installed from the hamburger menu, and find your files using them instead.
This ☝️
And when your storage is full from videos and gifs that friends exchange in WhatsApp or whatever, or Instagram keeping everything you post, and you want to clean up, there’s no easy way to do it.
Oh boy. Do I have a bone to pick with whatsapp. Their message data management is a complete clusterfuck.
Though if you just want to delete media, that’s easy.
Whatsapp has it’s own folder in root that contains a folder for each file type. Edit: Not anymore, it’s in/Android/media/whatsapp/WhatsApp/Medianow. You can safely delete them all, though media files will no longer be accessible in your message history, as WhatsApp has literally no way to keep that stuff around without monolithically saving all of it on your device, locally, forever.Instagram saves content to a couple folders, all in easy to find places like root, Movies, DCIM and Pictures.
As for Instagram app data, you can clear that from app settings.
Most can be cleaned by going into Settings, Apps, Whatsapp, Storage and clicking delete cache. permanently saved ones may be more problematic
No. It’s not deleted with the cache. It’s like everything is saved in a separate folder.
Don’t forget “This file has already been downloaded, do you want to download it again?”
And the options are to cancel or download again but you can’t open the already existing file from the prompt, so you might as well just download that fucking PDF for the fifth time!
This made me laugh more than the meme. Thanks.
you guys don’t simply have a folder called “Downloads” where everything goes?
Yeah, where I’ve got a shit load of files that, the first time, automatically download with their default name which is usually a bunch of random letters.pdf, it’s quicker to just download it again than to find it!
Everything does not go there, different file types seem to go to different places. Successful downloads don’t ever appear sometimes.
idk man, sounds like a skill issue
Do I press download differently? There shouldn’t be skill in the default download location.
yes you gotta press it on the right spot…
I don’t know what setting you’ve accidentally turned on, but all my browser downloads go to my Downloads folder by default. I’ll admit in-app downloads can end up in a few different spots, though. Most in-app picture downloads end up either in Downloads or in a subfolder inside the Pictures folder, though.
Each application can have its own default download location. Reddit apps were particularly bad about that and it may have carried over into lemmy as well. But learning the settings for the software you want to use isn’t a terrible ask.
Yes, that’s exactly how the two android phones I’ve used have worked, and why this post is getting upvoted is a mystery to me.
There are also folders called “Camera” and “Screenshots”, and I’ll give you three guesses where photos and screenshots go.
DCIM probably. While my stuff is in Media, because pictures and videos are always a mixed bag anyway. OpenCamera allows changing the save path, luckily; Media/Camera
I have a Downloads folder where some things go. :(
Annoys me every time. But as I remember you could click on the file and open it on older android systems.
Still works for me on current phone
Click the name. It doesn’t look like an option, because there are buttons for download or cancel, but the file name is also a link to the file.
Nope, not on my Pixel 7 using Chrome
It works on my Pixel 7 using Chrome!
Show me a screenshot of where you’re able to tap to open the file because I certainly can’t find it…
If I tap the file name it opens the keyboard, if itap the folder it shows how much space is available…
Oh wow, mine presents differently:
Yeah someone told me it’s the only option in the download settings that needed to be deactivated
You’ll need to turn off “ask where to save files” in chrome download settings.
Thanks, it works! Funny how that’s an option considering it downloads PDF files without asking anything the first first time and only ask for your input if you try to download it a second time…
What is that like android 6
It links to a file with that name. There have been times where I download a pdf and click the name only for my phone to open a different pdf than the one I was supposed to be downloading. Turns out they both had the same name.
It makes sense. I don’t think it’s possible to detect if the contents in two files are identical before downloading it, so all it can do is to compare the file name.
Anyway, the dialogue could be more helpful in this regard, but I guess that would also annoy or confuse some users.
It’s in Recents
Recents isn’t really a location, but a summary.
It’s never in Recents. Recents is utterly useless unless you’re using one of the Google apps, and even then it’s unreliable.
cx file explorer. u welcome
*It’s often in Recents
Never had the problem, strange. Using Total Commander as file manager, just don’t use the stupid ones, I guess, idk.
I know! It’s saved in [DEFAULT FOLDER]
My next phone will be a linux phone, my current one would be if I didn’t get it for free
Your best bet is to find something that runs droidian.
Runs android first, but you can install Linux.
Nice, be sure to make a post about how it goes!
Have you checked your “Downloads”-folder?
where exactly is the downloads folder?
I just run Files and the Downloads folder is listed there under Categories.
Who the fuck knows.
Like the fictional village of Germelshausen, it only appears for a single day every 100 years.
On Android it’s in the root folder. So basically if you just open any file explorer app, it should be on the first screen. The equivalent to the “C” drive or “My Computer” on Windows.
/storage/emulated/0/Download
that’s what total commander told me
For Android, I can recommend CX Filebrowser
I haven’t tried that one but FX filebrowser is awesome
Who is this commander and why is he is fucking around with my downloads?
So convenient .
Well
/storage/emulated/0/seems to be sort of like a home folder, so it is quite convenientIt’s the kind of /home you have when you don’t want people to stumble upon it… The kind of place you archive your “homework” in.
Not my gentleman’s special interest literature!
In your phone. Just like how your computer has things in the C drive.
The files are in the computer?
Ever since like android 11 nothing saves in my download folder anymore on the SD card I have inserted.
Everything gets saved deep in the android subdirectory, and then somewhere in a folder named loosely after the app that downloaded it, where the app has made ANOTHER folder to put the file.
And then you can’t even move it with a third party folder app. It’s gotten so annoying lately I’d swear they just want to kill the SD card from android completely.
On my Android 13 device browsers save in sd card/Android/data/com.my.browser. This folder can only be accessed on the default, hidden file manager or on a PC. Not even read-only access, but straight up nothing. At this point I just don’t bother directly downloading to my sd card anymore, I just download to internal storage and move it all to sd card/Downloads every so often
Not always, though. Some apps save images to /Pictures, and in there, some of them make their own folder. It really is kinda half baked.
Sometimes it’s their own folder in their own sandboxed app directory. A lot of apps do that now to avoid permissions issues. Like the GBA emulator I use no longer puts game saves in the user’s root directory so you can’t even see them without a USB connection to a PC, and even if you do that it’s extreme obfuscated.
If you refer to pizza boy, the dev told me by email that there’s an option to save somewhere else (I sent an email complaining that hiding saves in /android/data/com.app.blabla is stupid (can only be accessed via USB and it gets wiped when you uninstall the app), at least use /android/media/com.app.blabla
Ok the first bit I can kinda understand, but obfuscating them? Now that has to be intentional
if it’s images you’re looking for, have you checked your gallery? if an app saves an image in a way it doesn’t show up in your gallery, get a better app cuz that one sucks
I’m just checking this meme instead
Isnt that the fault of some apps which doesn’t show where the file is? Or does android itself doesnt show it when you save it using system app??
This is going off my memory of an explanation I read a while ago, so I could be off on the fine details, but I believe it’s one of those things that devs do indeed have the option to do, the vast majority are just lazy as shit (I’m well aware this is likely a management decision, not he individual devs themselves in most cases) and don’t want to add anything that wouldn’t be useful on both android and ios
android is actually such a fucking mess, dont even get me started.
WHO THE FUCK THOUGHT .nomedia FILES WERE A GOOD IDEA? WHO, WHICH ONE OF YOU WAS IT?
i would genuinely rather use linux on my phone, and im not even joking, android is just the worst.
.nomedia files are fairly standard across applications on Android and Linux. Nextcloud and other applications will use them to know not to scan that forlder with automation, thumbnail creation, ml, etc. Its a simple and standard signal. It follows the .file convention so it should be hidden when not browsing with hidden files on.
What’s so bad about it? I use it to keep my mangá folder out of the gallery app.
for starters. The fact that i had to google it to figure out what it was. Let alone randomly discover that it exists in a tangentially related search. It is an ASTRONOMICALLY inaccessible feature to someone who isn’t readily invested into android.
secondarily, it should be done in the gallery, obviously. That just MAKES sense. The place where you are shown pictures, should also be the place where it lets you ignore more pictures. If you want to use .nomedia as a backend for that? Fine, Document it at atleast.
It’s also just, weird… The gallery app only seems to consider a few folders existing at any state. Some better than others, i have no idea what drives the logic behind it. But you can nest them, super easily, which definitely won’t cause any issues. If you have a single folder you do want to show, but 9 that you don’t, you need 9 no media files, because that’s convenient apparently.
I mean really any other system would’ve been better, a directory list, a file table, a database, literally anything that lets you mark it interactively. Having a single HIDDEN file, determine the state of an entirely independent app is just next level hackery. You really shouldn’t ever do that. It’s just fundamentally bad design philosophy. It’d be like a lightswitch on the opposite side of your home, preventing your garage door from opening.
It’s wild to me that everyone here talking about how much Android sucks is just airing greivances about the stock apps from Google/Samsung/etc.
The gallery app is not part of Android. The file manager is not part of Android. pretty much every app that came preinstalled on your phone is not part of the OS.
You don’t hate Android, you hate the bloatware that came on your phone.
yet another big problem with android. Why does every OEM have their own flavor that is equally shit.
Im sure people will tell me to just root it or use different software, my brother in christ i want you to ship me a phone that i can fucking use, not one that i have to sterilize and give amnesia. Linux has been doing this for a million years, why can’t android?
You’re more than welcome to buy one of the many phones that comes with stock android without added bloat
“android is better than ios”
“hey im on android and it sucks”
“you’re using the wrong android you dumbass”
Wow it’s almost as if when there’s a term that actually covers multiple different operating systems, there’s going to be variations in quality between them! Imagine that!
E: sp
Doesn’t seem that complex to me. Feels like it’s akin to a .gitignore file to me.
.gitignore would be application specific though? In that case you have a semi reasonable usage case, because it’s obviously going to be documented, and it’s not like it interferes with too much else.
Latest example I ran into is on android TV you cannot change your dns settings in wifi config. On regular android you can. I had to spend a couple hours fiddling with my routers networking (I was doing some weird routing for a specific network that android TV is on with a VPN tun only for that network). And if it just had the ability to change the dns settings to a static value I wouldn’t of had to do that. Why would they do that?
It’s sacrificed to our AI overlords.
