• ilmagico@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    I’m sorry, I hate what Elon is doing, with twitter/X and not only, but I call bullshit on this post, at least until further strong evidence being presented.

    I don’t doubt that Elon and Xitter have been pushing his political agenda one way or another, but the post specifically calls out elizaOS and links to some github website and repo which supposedly contains “bread crumbs”. All I see is an AI project that is not (directly, at least) affiliated with Elon, at least from what I could find on a quick internet search, and for sure whose employees were not X employees to be able to leave bread crumbs into. Also the supposed “bread crumb” is just some third party company/organization offering an AI agent mockingmimicking Trump where in its “bio” it says it interfered with the election? Sorry, I need stronger proof.

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      2 days ago

      That third party was founded by Marc Andreessen. He’s currently staffing doge and on the board of meta. He switched to maga as he believes in accelerating tech at all costs (effective accelerationism) and has written a manifesto on it. As well as publicly commenting about convincing the public of the truth via social media. If he didn’t do what the post is claiming he would’ve wished he did.

      His publicly stated goals are basically to Elysium us

      https://www.vcinfodocs.com/what-is-the-network-state

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        1 day ago

        I did a bit more research into this.

        You’re confusing a16z (Marc Andreessen) with ai16z (the people who made this and claim affiliation with Marc Andreessen). It’s a crypto scheme, they’re using this AI agent project to promote their coin. This is what crypto schemes do all the time, claiming that their coin is powered by or is powering whatever latest tech buzzword thing. Few years ago it was NFTs, then the metaverse, now it’s AI agents. It’s also extremely common for them to claim to be affiliated or funded by Elon Musk, for obvious reasons.

        AI agents, especially if used like the project creators are implying through this fabricated narrative, are absolutely a threat to society. But that still doesn’t mean that this narrative isn’t fabricated.

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            That is absolutely not surprising, it’s clear that this group absolutely worships the guy, and clearly he enjoys the attention. But to say this proves the narrative in the post or that he’s directly involved is still a huge stretch without actual evidence.

            People should definitely be made aware of the dangers both a16z AND ai16z pose, but not by buying the conspiracy theories they’re spreading around to further their interests.

            We’ve seen shit like this happen in crypto again and again and again. Every shitcoin and crypto fad comes with its own purported vision of the future it’s supposedly powering, with Bitcoin it was financial privacy and independence from traditional currency, with NFTs it was a utopia of creative ownership, with the metaverse it was a virtual capitalistic reality, with this it’s apparently some crap about accelerating progress through social engineering (basically disinformation). But really, what they’re most likely going to do, is to use chatbots to scam people into buying their coin. Because that’s all this is about.

            I need to reiterate: that Substack post is literally an ad. The person claims to work for Twitter but also claims to have been provided the tool externally by Andreessen (it describes Eliza as some sort of mysterious highly advanced technology: it’s not) and then also claims to have the authority to leave publicly available “breadcrumbs” in the code of Andreessen’s tool? And then they also claim to be a junior dev who doesn’t understand the technical side of it, but also claims to have worked at Twitter on a H1B visa? Closely enough to Musk to be enrolled in this high level illegal conspiracy against the public? It’s literally badly written fiction.

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              Well it’s not his tool as you clarified. But we know Marc is in contact with both ai16z and musk. And would certainly like to do the things alleged.

              Believe the breadcrumb he’s referring to is using Trump as the public example. Maybe the prompt correlates to bot messages posted to Twitter too.

              He says ‘we left’, so he personally wouldn’t have needed the perms.

              H1b doesn’t seem like a red flag to me. Plenty in my year got entry roles in FAANG in the US after their degrees and had to get h1b sponsorship. Musk got rid of most other staff and only has a skeleton crew of loyalists and h1bs. I imagine most the remaining 10% are aware intricacies of the various interference he’s demanded. (Many of which are documented outside of this).

              They are ‘advanced’ in that LLMs can now trick most people when they couldn’t a few years ago. Think you’re reading too much into that there. Seems unlikely the people who want to manipulate people with chatbots would have the self awareness to create an ad like this. Maybe a leftist putting together the obvious and embellishing but seems a bit too coincidental.

      • ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world
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        2 days ago

        His manifesto is so bad. I know he wrote Mosaic and co-founded Netscape; presumably he has some type of intelligence. But he definitely can’t write manifestos for shit. The writing is awkward and his arguments so juvenile that they mostly just made me roll my eyes.

        He basically writes like someone who only took the bare minimum of required humanities courses in college and every elective was in STEM. (Which is fine! He’s obviously had success in life. He just should use some of that money to hire a writer and editor to help with his next manifesto.)