Technically it’s for any printer capable of printing a firearm or the components of a firearm, which is…. every printer. What a bafflingly stupid proposal. If you’re in NY, please call your reps and tell them to oppose this bill.
How much harder would it be than getting an actual gun?
my granny got one in a Walmart parking lot so it can’t be that hard.
Still don’t know how that even happens.Well, maybe that’s your (US&A) problem, not 3d printers ;)
Road trip to Georgia and back, basically.
Makes total sense
Just FYI, you can’t buy a firearm at a dealer outside of your home state without having it shipped to an FFL holder in your home state. E.g., I can’t drive to Family Firearms in Alabama from Georgia–where i live–to buy a gun. I have to order from them, and then have it shipped to an FFL near me, and then fill out the paperwork in my own state. In states that allow private, p2p sales (which is most of them), you could buy a firearm with cash from an individual, and they’d never do a background check or fill out a 4473.
Thank you for the information. My (incorrect) assumption was the oft-paraded “gun show” loophole.
I think consistent effort is required to erase any misconception about the availability of firearms.
Oh boy can’t wait for them to ban two pipes that fit inside each other and a nail.
Politicians are such profoundly unserious people.
Printcrime was not an instruction manual.
Gonna require background checks to get plumbing supplies or to go to the hardware store? Cause I can make a gun a hell of a lot easier and quicker with that shit, than I can with a 3d fuckin printer.
IIRC hardware store employees do pay attention to purchases that look like that and have phone numbers to call for it
You think those employees are paid enough to care?
Nope! But i bet management cares enough about it (or at least not being “that store that sold a shooter gun parts”) to make it painful if they dont.
You can buy from multiple stores and mix in a bunch of other stuff to make it hard for someone to figure out what you’re building.
Or just go to self checkout
The Home Depot near my house recently went exclusively self checkout. I hate it, makes me consider driving an extra 15 min to go to Menard’s or Lowes.
Pfft.
I used to run a hardware store. We saw people assembling parts to build zip guns, potato cannons, pipe bombs, bongs, and other similarly related naughty projects all the time. You want to know what I did about it? I told them to let me know how it turned out.
Some boob from the ATF actually came by and tried to grill me real hard about ammonium nitrate at one point shortly after 9/11, and I had to tell him the same thing over and over again phrased many different ways until he finally got it, which was that we don’t sell any fertilizer other than prepackaged blended consumer products, i.e. we did not sell any pure nitrates to anyone because we could not, because we didn’t bother to carry them. End of discussion.
There was still plenty of crap available on my shelves to make a quite competent bomb if you knew what you were doing. But I didn’t go into detail and I sure as shit wasn’t going to go around teaching anyone.
It’s those rock tumbler crazies of the world.
Oi. You got a permit to tumble that aluminum foil?
Lol that describes my childhood
Did you use chlorates, saltpeter, or potassium permanganate?
WTF?
What’s next a background check for breathing? Because, you know breathing is a clear and obvious pre-cursor to criming of all kinds.
Checks out, seeing as breathing is a precursor in blowguns.
Lol, I built a 3d printer with a 3d printer.
You wouldn’t download a 3D Printer!
seriousoly?
The wilson2 with 80/20 aluminum. Not too hard.
Yeah. The Voron printers are a good example
Luigi had no background to check.
This is pure flail.
What about a bunch of stepper motor and some plastic. Do I need a background check for that?
Well, everyone knows only main boards have a serial number, so you need a permit for that. But the rest is a spare part, you can get it freely.
/s
Awful. Literally banning science, because it can be misused.
We’d better go the full mile. Here’s my list of things to be banned, For Our SafetyTM:
- 3/4" and 1" galvanized steel pipe and endcaps
- Cases of matches
- Acetone
- Stump killer
- Milling machines
- Lathes
- Drill presses
- Hydrogen peroxide
- Salt, Sodium Chloride
- Stainless steel bolts
- Benchtop power supplies
- Sulfur
- Carbon
- Water
- Aluminum foil
I’m sure I can think of others if you give me a minute or two.
Can’t you make a pipe bomb out of PVC?
Not a good one, I’d imagine. The casings real purpose afaik is to turn into shrapnel, I don’t think plastic would be as effective. Then again, I believe it’s common to mix screws or similar in with the explosive for more shrapnel, so maybe. Just speculating though
Iron rust. Can be used with the aluminum you included to produce thermite.
This is second time they trying to pass this bullshit. 2023 https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/bills/2023/A8132
Oh don’t worry, there will be a third. And a fourth. And a… Well, more and more until it passes
It only has to pass once
Any engineer worth their salt can do this without a 3d printer. Idiots.
Next up, you’re going to have to register your drill press, lathe, etc.
This is braindead, are they gonna require background checks for the hardware store next?
Don’t forget sporting goods and kitchen supplies. Heck, you can get a bunch of decent knives in IKEA, better put furniture outlets on a watchlist.
Or worse, buying guns everywhere?
You literally need ID to purchase silverware in the UK. Yes, they will absolutely do this.
new york will do anything but fix actual problems lmao
It fixed congestion.
We’ll see if that sticks, or if annoying rich car people get the reforms repealed. Hochul certainly seems pliable.
Rich car people will take it as the cost of doing business and have the roads to themselves like they wanted.
Are they going to require background checks for purchasing metal working equipment? Or maybe just make it illegal to bring any metal to melting point without a license.
Because you can make guns with metal.
It just buy a gun third party or at a gun show in a state without background check requirements.
This isn’t rocket science.
Background checks are a Federal requirement and any transfer requires it go through an FFL for just that reason There is no Gun Show Loophole
The loophole is largely in the matter of enforcement. It is comically easy to evade these regulation or outright ignore them.
Ah yes, but then they’ll just make it illegal to buy and own 2nd hand stuff.
Very easy to hit your police quotas in a city where everyone is constantly committing crimes through basic commerce.
