Rip Creative Nomad.
With optimization that battery should last more than 10 days.
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It would be a neat gift for anyone that enjoyed the first generation iPod.
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I will always prefer my iPod Mini with extra storage, new battery and Rockbox like this guy did, and the reasons are:
- better overall build and audio quality
- way cheaper (70-80$ vs 249$)
- better software support (Rockbox is FOSS and has been going on for ages and it’s not gonna stop)
- it actually upcycles old hardware instead of buying new devices and creating more e-waste
- nostalgia value +100 points
The only reason i’d consider this is if the soundcard was premium with DAC and amp included. Otherwise that piece of junk brings nothing to the table. Yes this thing has it, but its nowhere near premium.
Nobody said it was.
Cute, but what problem does this solve? Regardless of what you feel about any particular platform, consolidating multiple pieces of functionality into the highly integrated smartphone platform was a major step forward in mobility. This just feels like a regression.
I think it can at least carry 2TB of offline music for you if you still like owning your own music if that’s your thing. It’s an option, nothing wrong with that
Again so can a smartphone so what problem does this solve?
Heck it can use FOSS to download another 2 TB when your catalog grows.
Maybe for people who are not interested in smartphones? Could also be an educational project if you want to dive into embedded systems. You’ll also save battery on your phone.
Not all smartphones have the storage to store 2TB of songs. Phones with micro SD cards are rare as platinum these days.
Lots of chinese phones still have an SD card slot, although its usually in the same location as the second SIM card, so you have to choose.
My phone is like this and I use the dual SIM feature, as the internal memory is 256gb anyway.
Below you will find my highly researched list of advantages over the typical smartphone:
- Headphone jack
- Mucho storage space
- Works without internet connection
- Free software purity (I don’t know, ask RMS)
- Coolness
Tbf you can still get a phone with a headphone jack, and with a ton of space. Not that you need a crazy amount for music anyway.
Also confused about the internet connection part. Even if you only use music streaming services, most let you download your music for offline listening.
I’m okay with the idea of a piece of tech meant to do a single thing, do it well for hours on end on one charge, while not spying on me in creative ways
Some people like to enjoy their media without having to use their phone and prefer to keep their smartphones as strictly communication devices.
It allows you to switch off entirely when you so desire in addition to saving smartphone battery life.
This in addition to being able to use 2tb of removable storage dedicated to music and a headphone jack are significant advantages for me. Not that I would purchase this particular device but I understand the appeal of devices that perform one function such as DAPs and ereaders.
Some people like to enjoy their media without having to use a smartphone, they prefer to keep their smartphones as strictly communication devices.
Okay, I guess that’s fair. I can see this useful for being out for a run or whatnot. I’m not sure I find it quite comparable to an e-reader, since the screen on an e-reader provides a decidedly different experience from a smartphone both in size and readability.
It comes with a 3.5mm audio output for starters.
There are $10 adapters that convert USB-C to a 3.5 mm port, if that is critical. Or just get any of the wide variety of Bluetooth devices on the market.
A 3.5mm jack costs fractions of a cent, and I don’t have to carry around a $10 dollar adapter to solve an artificial problem.
Bluetooth sucks badly, and the wide array of devices on the market have batteries that need to be charged. I’ll stick with the best option if i can thanks, 3.5mm jack.
Okay, but in exchange you’re carrying around a $250 device that is much large than the adapter? That was my point. And for many people, myself included, Bluetooth devices do decently well even if they have their drawbacks.
Fair enough. I guess my point is that a modern phone should have both Bluetooth AND a 3.5mm jack.
You could say this about any type of music player tbh (LP, cassette, etc.)
Yup, this just feels like someone trying to make the cassette cool again. There’s a reason it fell out of fashion. If someone wants it, so be it, in the end that’s their business. I just think it’s a little silly to be sprouting more devices (and associated e-waste) when people can stay consolidated in one compact package.
Idk, I like cassettes, so I don’t mind being a little silly sometimes
I haven’t seen a device that takes full sized sdhc cards in at least a decade.
This is all well and good, especially from a nostalgia perspective (in addition to the general pushback against cloud everything); but what I miss most about portable music nowadays is the lack of decent inline remotes (think early 2000s Sony MiniDisc players).
The player stated in your pocket, and the remote handled everything, volume, playback, and even had a dot-matrix screen to identify and navigate playlists!
You need a smartwatch.
I have one - but its touch screen is no replacement for bespoke, tactile controls.
Sound like you just have a smaller smartphone on your wrist. My smartwatch has a black and white (not grayscale) display as well as 5 physical buttons and I wouldn’t have it any other way.
If you’ve never used an inline remote, it’s really hard to explain why they were so much better from a UX perspective than what’s available now.
If I want to control media on my smartwatch, I need to flick focus on my wrist - usually stopping me from being able to fully use that hand, identify the right controls on the touch screen (and that it’s even on the right screen, and not obstructed by notifications) and hope that they register correctly.
Those old inline remotes were basically a useful ‘Bop It!’; control inputs varied: twist a dial, tilt the end, button press, slide, scroll dial and provided full tactile control which could be truly used one-handed (when clipped to my shirt).
It is a true shame that they were left by the wayside, when multiple devices ended up amalgamating into the modern smartphone.
I had and loved my minidisc player back in the earlie naughties. The remote was great, but there was no standardization and it became a single point of failure. If and when it broke, you’d have to get the specific control for your MD player.
It kind of lived on in spirit with in-line volume/call controls for wired headsets on the 4-conductor 2.5mm jack. Those were cool, and standardized.
We could have a return to that, with USB-C, but I don’t think it’d see much more than a niche adoption. Smartwatches and fitness trackers do it just as well, and once you know the layout, you can skip/pause without looking. Plus most cordless headphones/earbuds have integrated controls as well. Streaming at home you have voice controls, streaming in the car they are on the steering wheel or stereo.
The wired in-line remote is really only even applicable to the already niche community of users who refuse to adopt wireless. Considering most of those people are strict audiophiles, only something that has a quality integrated DAC would appeal to them. Thats a pretty specific product for a pretty small market. Not saying it wouldn’t be feasible, but it’d certainly not be cheap and simple.
Tactile feedback is great though. I’m totally with you there…not many watches have physical buttons that you can locate and activate completely unaided by vision.
I had a Sony portable CD player that I used to use for listening to audiobooks as a kid. It also had an inline remote with a screen. One notable feature it had was custom screen messages (dunno why you would need one tbh). Nothing beats setting the remote so that there was an ASCII dick on the screen all the time, and then have your dad give you the look of disappointment afterwards.
At some point the remote was lost, and the laser assembly broke. I miss that player dearly
Brings back fond memories of rockbox on my sansa.
oh shit rockbox I had forgotten about that
Rockbox was the shit.
Breathed so much life into my iRiver. And I always had to defend the thing: “it’s older than iPods! It can’t be an rip-off”
Rockbox *is…
It’s still going.
I use rockbox on a late ipod classic. I find it a very good listening experience, but I am interested in switching to open source
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Now you too can play Doom on the worst screen imaginable!
With the worst controls imaginable to boot :)
New speedrun challenge!
Ayo that was amazing on the Sansa Clip+.
Will be needing to check-in on this over time to see if anything is changed or default functions expand just a bit. I have been looking for a good media device for loading my archived podcast episodes/seasons and audiobooks without having all the extra bloat and/or possible malware that can be on lots of similar and cheaper Android players (or the overkill of using an old phone that doesn’t have a aux port). Main thing for podcasts and audiobooks is variable playback speed settings and stuff like understanding audiobook formats with chapters.
Sadly I (for now) have settled on a sketchy Android device that I would love to root so I can remove a specific flagged app that the Play Store always pops a notification about that is not uninstallable like so many companies do. But since it is a no name brand without firmware images to download from their site. I just I only ever put it online long enough for my favorite podcast app to pull new eps or Audible. Though I am planning to eventually just download and strip DRM from my library for having backups.
So if this thing can get variable speed for podcasts and support open/free formats that are specific to books. Then I am sold. I never got to have an iPod back in the day, so I very much like the throwback look of this thing! I do wish it had more RAM though, as I would imagine that it could limit some higher quality formats/codecs (but I am not a dev so maybe it wouldn’t matter). The price seems fair given it isn’t from just another global mega-corp. I hope they pay their devs well to make sure their official firmware updates stay active, and/or put some profits into future revisions and whatnot.
So just saying…I found a pretty simple iPod classic upgrade…you do the battery and swap out hard drive for a SD motherboard which can handle any SD drive you throw in it…
This is the way
We need more devices like this. Will definitely pick this up.
Genuine question : Why use that instead of storing your musics on your phone ?
While I use my phone for music I can certainly see some advantages:
physical buttons
smaller and lighter
less distraction than a phone
cheaper to replace if stolen or brokenI have a shuffle just for running.
My phone doesn’t have a 3.5mm headphone jack.
Such courage! /s
You can replace your phone with dedicated electronics, which has some advantages, such as better battery life and generally better performance. Like I bet this thing has a better amplifier than a phone has.
And phones have their downsides. They don’t last as long and are expensive. Privacy issues. And can be too stimulating and intrusive. For example sometimes you just need to know the time and before you know it you’re emailing someone.
When I go hiking I can just as well take a dumb phone, a GPS and an mp3 player with me. Maybe a camera too.
I prefer an MP3 player over my phone. Here is the one I use. Why I like this one:
- Dedicated device designed for music.
- Hardware designed to play high quality music. (Think using Ubuntu vs Ubuntu Studio for music production)
- Dedicated buttons instead of all touch screen.
- More options for integration with other devices or systems
- No distractions. Phones nowadays demand our attention for every little thing. Every app, no matter what it is, has notifications.
- The Bluetooth is better.
- You can literally hear the difference in the quality of the music if you use good quality headphones/ear buds. The same song, same file, will not sound the same if it’s a good quality FLAC.
Hopefully people take the source and release a full walkthrough on doing this with an entirely off-the-shelf design. I’ve got a full electronics workshop and two 3d printers and would LOVE to assemble my own music player with open source designs.
