Will we know why had universe began, why there is something instead of nothing.

  • seven_phone@lemmy.world
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    9 days ago

    It has been said here already but I will say it again, there is no why. Why is a human thing, perhaps an animal thing, at least it is connected to conscious thought. When it rains you do not ask why you can only research how. This is a difficult lesson, we live in a human culture and so feel comfort in being able to ask why people do things as well as how. Not having the why attribute for the physical universe feels cold and inhuman, but the universe is inhuman, even if it’s difficult that is the deal.

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    9 days ago

    Asking “why” only makes sense in the context of a conscious decision, unless you accept something like “because the Big Bang happened” as an answer.

  • Zloubida@lemmy.world
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    9 days ago

    No. There is a range of hypotheses, from “none” to “because a supernatural creator willed so”, but they’ll stay hypotheses. You can study them and find which one makes more sense for you, but there will never be certainties.

  • cm0002@lemmy.world
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    9 days ago

    There is no reason, it’s just random shit causing random shit. If random shit happens on the universes timescales of billions and trillions of years then cool stuff is bound to happen eventually. There’s no rhyme or reason for it.

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    9 days ago

    We’re entirely too removed from the start to know with 100% certainty. The best we can hope for is a plausible theory.

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    9 days ago

    We don’t even know if there is a reason or not. If stuff like cause and effect are properties of the universe itself, they they don’t necessarily have to apply to it coming into existence (and if time and space are merely a part of the universe with no equivalent beyond, then the concept of it being caused by something runs into the issue of there being no time before it for a cause to occur and no place before it for that event to happen in).

    There could be some equivalent of all those things of course, that the universe exists within, but we can’t just assume that.

  • burgersc12@mander.xyz
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    9 days ago

    Well depends on what you mean by “scientific”. Do I think modern science is capable of seeing anything beyond the testable and observable? No way, so there is nothing to determine a “why” with science alone. If there is an answer to why the universe began, I believe you’d have to ask the Infinite Void and hope for a response. According to the big bang theory we all came from one place, i.e. one “thing” created the entire universe, so only that “thing” would know “why” we were created.

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    9 days ago

    "There is a theory which states that if ever anyone discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable.

    There is another theory which states that this has already happened."

    • Douglas Adams
  • teletext@reddthat.com
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    9 days ago

    I don’t think we will.

    But religions don’t offer a good answer, either. At least those that a know. “In the beginning was god” But why was there god? What was there before god? What created god? Ask that in church and you get stoned to death. Or kicked out. Either one of that.

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      7 days ago

      I do like the image in Genesis that all was darkness until the sea and the light was created. It’s just a pleasant mental image that suddenly someone turned on the lights to me, and little by little here we all are.

    • Schorsch@feddit.org
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      9 days ago

      I disagree, although it depends on where you are. Ask it in a theological faculty and it will be an everyday discussion.

  • reddwarf@feddit.nl
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    9 days ago

    I do not think we will. You can philosophize about it though but a scientific answer is unlikely.
    The reason I think this is that I subscribe to the theory that the universe is the result of a black hole in another parallel universe. Black hole forms, eats matter and spews it back into a newly formed parallel universe, hence all the matter being present without us being able to explain how it came about. We call it the Big Bang. Likewise, we create new parallel universes with our black holes, the cycle continues. Always found it a neat explanation for it al.
    But will we know ‘why’ our universe was created? No, we would need to look beyond the veil and that means going through a black hole and I do not see that happening anytime soon.
    Problem with this theory is of course that matter keeps being flung around, what it the point of origin and will that deplete or be recycled?

    Fascinating stuff and this theory I talk about is most probably wrong as I also believe we are not capable of handling this query.