Put a screen in that fancy window and then we’ll talk.
American with these windows. I have screens. I also don’t like them very much.
There are screens for tilt windows. You put them on the outside instead of the inside.
Yeah, but most places in Europe don’t have screens regardless.
True that!
Yeah who the hell wants moths and mosquitoes in their house
It is truly bizarre how Europeans never use screens, make it make sense!!
We had them in Italy. But we also didn’t have these weird windows. Also stop acting like Europe is a small town on an island.
Its not like the few mosquitoes we have would be smart enough to enter my room through the sides of a lightly tilted window.
You just reminded of the time when I used to live in Germany. I had my window tilted open for a few hours that day, and when i was going to bed I found the biggest fucking spider I’ve ever seen right next to my fucking pillow! Why is no one talking about how big the spiders get in Bavaria?! It’s ridiculous! Those bastards get huge! Nothing compared to what i currently see where I live in the US.
There are no mosquitoes in the UK. And moths are rare. Would be lucky to see a fly.
There are definitely mosquitos in the UK. They piss me off every summer.
I tried finding a company who sold those windows in my city here in the USA and failed.
You need to go through a window company and have them custom-made. They’ll come over to your house and take measurements then build them at their factory and then install them. It will take a few weeks and will be expensive, but for my money it’s worth it.
Where I live Andersen is probably the best as they come with a forever warranty on everything including the glass itself, but they may or may not be in your area. There are plenty of other reputable companies as well. Again, this is not a cheap option.
Thank you. I’ll look into that option
Tilt it baby
It’s not like our windows don’t open, they just don’t tilt. I frequently open the windows and get a breeze going when it’s nice outside!
With the weather outside today in my Australian town a nice 24°C temperature I have a window at each end of the house open.
At one end of the house the window tilts (bottom out), the window at the other end other slides.
The sliding window has much more space — half of the viewing area — open to the breeze than the tilting
Yes, but it’s an inferior breeze.
What does that even mean?
While I agree that our windows are generally superior from a functional perspective, the Americans have us beat in the fact that you can’t install a window AC unit in our windows.
Hence we get to just die in the increasingly common heat waves. Not great - we’ve got to figure this one out.
Before portable ACs are mentioned - I’ll point out that they have terrible efficiency, and connecting the tube to blow out the hot air is still terrible with European windows.
Window mounted units are still terrible for comfort. External AC unit is like 300 euro + 300 euro for installation. It’s not a big investment and you get totally silent unit. In Europe people will use portable units if it’s short term and install external one if it’s permanent.
The quoted prices I saw for installation were a lot higher, more like 700 euro, but that probably depends on the cost of labour where you are.
There are also non-monetary aspects to this issue - I’m not allowed to make any modifications to my facade on account of it being made out of asbestos, for example. I’d have to get a specialist to cut the hole to make that work. It’s also a bit tricky to fit in an outside unit - or inside unit for that matter - on my walls.
I’m in complete agreement that mini splits are superior, but the downsides do exist and need to be acknowledged.
Yep, I’m just saying that 90% of people in Europe will simply go with external AC. Where I live most new apartments simply come with central AC installed and roof top units. But that’s in southern Spain, AC is a must.
Absolutely. I’m speaking mostly from a Swedish apartment-perspective, where ACs have been optional basically forever, but the climate crisis is quickly making them more and more mandatory each year.
Mini split heat pumps.
All you need is a 3cm hole in the wall to run a refrigerant line from the outside heat pump unit to the wall unit.
Window AC units are pretty poor efficiency too, IIRC
This is likely going to be the answer, yeah, but I believe we need to see some improvements in installability for the average person - a window AC unit does afaik not require a specialist to install, while a mini split, while possible to tackle for a handy person, is a lot harder, leaving the average person to have to pay for someone to install the unit.
Window ACs are not the best from an efficiency perspective, but they do beat portable units by a large margin.
EDIT: looks like it might actually not even be legal in the EU to install a mini split yourself - you need to be certified to handle the refrigerants.
Installation is also more than 50% of the total cost of acquisition, so we’re hitting upon an affordability issue here as well.
I’ve just been looking into this in the UK (so Europe, but not EU).
You can now get split units that come pre-filled with a safer refrigerants that a DIYer is allowed to do themselves.
I would still get an electrician to do the electrical side though. 1KW constant load should definitely be on its own circuit.
Yeah that’s a good point about affordability. I guess I’d hope for government subsidies or at least supply & demand market forces to address that before it becomes an essential thing, especially if they replace gas boilers too as a move to reduce carbon emissions.
In the world of theoretical wild policies, there’s a really good argument for subsidizing heat pump installation for places heating with fossil fuels or direct electricity at more than 100% of the cost of installation. I’d love to see that kind of project. One can mostly just dream, though.
Not true, modern window units are very efficient
What if I can’t make a 3cm hole cuz I’m a rentoid?
I’m sure if you pay the AC unit yourself nobody will oppose lol
There are the freestanding air conditioners. They have a hose you put in the window. There are plastic seals you can buy that fit in the windows to seal off the exhaust. They aren’t perfect but they are better than nothing.
And this is a thread about how those won’t work with European windows
I live in Europe, have one, and they work just fine thank you. They just don’t put the whole unit in the window. See here
That looks like shit
Make a temporary 3cm hole
I rent and could install AC because it is a home improvement. You could ask if it is allowed.
Integrated AC ftw bebeh
Never seen a tilting window in Finland
Yeah but our specialty is triple panes. Insulation supremacy
I work in a hotel.
One day, a family comes to the reception to tell me that their window is broken, asking me to change their room. I ask if I can take a look.
It turns out, they didn’t know the existence of tilt & turn windows and were scared that the window was going to fall down lol
Lol wtf? Why can’t you get a light breeze without tilting windows?
Yeah I’m a little confused too. The thing with windows is that you get what you pay for. It’s ridiculous to think that there’s some kind of window design that’s magically available in Europe but not in the US. There are probably designs that are more common in different parts of the world, but it’s absolutely not the case that if a homeowner wants to pay for it they can’t get whatever they want in the US.
I have to think this post was made by someone who knows nothing about construction.
The idea is protection from crime. You can have the window tilted and thieves theoretically cannot climb in through that window, where a swinging or sliding window while open allows someone to climb in through it
Of course in practice they’re less safe where they’re popular as there is a tool, a hook, which allows someone breaking in to hook the handle, pull the tilted window shut, and open it again in swinging mode, allowing them in
My understanding is sliding windows are the easiest to secure as you can bolt lock them at any point of openness. My sliding windows have bolt points at closed and at 5cm open
If you want to really confuse Americans show them European showers. Imagine a shower with fixed pressure only…
That’s not true at all. The ignorance in this thread is absolutely astonishing. It’s like you went to the US once, spent a week in Florida and now somehow think you’re an expert in American homebuilding techniques and practices. WTF?
It absolutely is true. I have a PHD in early XXI century north American showering practices and I know for a fact that 65% of showers in the North East and 66% of showers in the rest of the US look like this, thus, making it a typical American shower. I will admit that there is a debate within my field of research as to how public and hotel showers should be counted but most experts agree with my position that what should be taken into consideration are the shower units, not the number of uses they get per year.
Well played, sir, or madam, as the case may be. Very well played.
Wait, what?
European here, I’ve had showers with multiple pressure and flow levels since… ever.
TIL all Americans have showers with multiple pressure settings
I’ve only been an American for a few decades, still kinda new at it
They do? Practically all US showers I’ve come across, have this stupid shower single handle bullshit. Leave the shower on your preferred temperature between showers? Adjust the pressure of the water? Nah, that sounds stupid; why would anyone want that…
I usually only see those in hotels. Every place I’ve lived in allowed the adjustment of pressure and temperature. If you live in a place that doesn’t, you can also buy shower heads that can adjust the pressure btw.
There are plenty of options in the US for adjustable pressure. Mine has pressure on the big lever, and temperature on a smaller level. It even has pressure compensation when somebody flushes a toilet, so there’s no temperature change. But the type you show there does seem to be the default selection for new construction.
I get it’s all memes and fun, but I am so tired of this constant ‘Europe does this better’, ‘USA is supreme for that’.
They don’t have that problem in Australia.
Irrelevant, Canada is clearly better than all of you.
Canada is like USA but with French and you worship Britsh monarchs… Like you tried to get worst of both worlds
But at least the Canadians have healthcare and weed.
Okay I wish we had legal weed
The only people that tire of it are the ones who lose the most 🙃
“Hey guys, constantly bashing each other is getting old”
“That’s because we’re better than you!”
You’re acting way more 'merican than you realize.
Yes, you’ve clearly won at… uh… tilty windows? Good job 👍
We also have affordable medical support but it’s getting old bashing USA about that
Please keep it up. We can get on y’all if you ever jail somebody for a Tweet again.
Here’s hoping the school shooting & medical debt memes are in the back of our minds come election time!
The sad thing is that this time we can’t really have fun on you for voting dumb orange man because he’ll probably have negative effects to us too :(
Sorry :(
You know what’s not getting old? Americans as much as Europeans!
10/10 pun.
For the Americans that’s 12 out of half a football field
Sounds like something a person lacking in tilty windows would say
Who needs tilty windows when you have ac
It’s like you died halfway through that sentence because of the lack of light breeze and we will never know what word you were trying to type that begins “ac…”
Ac is a common shortening of air conditioner/conditioning
“AC” is. “ac” isn’t.
Masses divided are easier to control
You realize we have AC in Merica right?
Like, have you been to half of Europe in the summer?
I’m not sure why this would be an advantage? Does the tilt cause more draft than opening it a different way?
Try any different way during a rain and You’ll realize the difference.
It’s never warm enough when it’s raining to warrant having the window open though. Maybe if you’re in Arizona or the south of Spain.
Most Europeans dont have AC units, so windows being open is a necessity.
This post misses the entire reason for the difference and instead makes it a divisive topic.
I don’t have AC and I manage the temperature in my house just fine with windows alone. My point stands.
They aren’t standard in the US, but I promise you these windows exist here. My parents installed them in their home
Anyone who has worked in high-end construction can tell you that they’re very common in rich people’s houses. The reason you don’t see them more often is that most people don’t want to pay for them. Americans tend to value the size of their houses more than anything else, and since McMansion developers know this, windows are one very easy way to cut costs.
They’re also a lot more common in older homes (like mine) because if you’re going to replace all your windows (which you should do for energy reasons), you might as well get the good ones.
I have a middle income home with these windows. I prefer regular windows that go up and down.
Yep. Source: am in Colorado and have triple pane tilt turn windows, and know several others with them. They are super nice and slowly growing in popularity.
America is huge. We have areas with weather just like Europe and areas with weather nothing like Europe. One country but many weathers.
Europe is my favorite country
The country of “America” is also a favorite.
That doesn’t work well since America is the common name for the US, and we can the continent the US, Canada, and Mexico share North America
South America still ignored.
If you want to include the lot it’s “the Americas”
Well the meme just says Europe and was posted by a European so…
Southamerican living in Spain here.
First time I saw those windows my mind blew to pieces.
I live in south america and have those windows in my house…
