Chinese authorities wrongfully detained more than 20 Tibetans and severely tortured a Tibetan village head named Gonpo Namgyal to death with the repeated use of electric equipment in detention for several months in Ponkor township, Darlag County in Golog in the traditional Tibetan province of Amdo now incorporated into Qinghai, Sichuan and Gansu provinces.
You’d think the 1.6 billion would buy you at least some manufactured pictures or whatever lmao
So if there was photographic evidence, it would be manufactured?
What kind of evidence would convince you?
Would it need to be reported on by a specific CCP controlled news source?
It would need to be reported by more than one source, those other sources can’t cite this report as their source and the source can’t be a mouthpiece for a government in exile that has decades of history collaborating with the CIA.
That would be a start.
As a bonus, it would need to include contextualized information about how this would be extremely counter productive to all of the aims of China’s relationship-building with the Tibetan people and how this would represent a huge shift in that relationship.
Having seen the quality of the slop, I know it’s an easy grift.
Radio Free Asia[1]: Tibetan champion of language preservation dies after release
Hmm, where have I heard this story before? 🤔
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Meanwhile at Wikipedia[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirmative_action_in_China
Holy whataboutism, Batman! 🤦
Indigenous people in North America being displaced and oppressed does NOT in fact make it acceptable for the Chinese government to oppress and ethnically cleanse Tibetan people.
If anything, NOT committing crimes against humanity all the time would be THE most effective way for China to distinguish themselves from their geopolitical adversaries in a positive manner.
TL;DR: Nice try, but just as two wrongs doesn’t make a right, the similar but separate atrocities of Western countries don’t excuse those of China in any way.
Citations Needed podcast: Whataboutism - The Media’s Favorite Rhetorical Shield Against Criticism of US Policy
Still waiting on the evidence for those similar atrocities.
hey look another western chauvinist (read: white supremacist) doing genocide denial
UwU smol widdle bean amewica only did a lil scoot scoot to the indians
Building schools and maintaining extensive affirmative action (even excluding minorities from the one child policy) is literally ethnic cleansing.
Killing, jailing, using biological weapons, enacting a century of land grabs and torturing/killing everyone who couldn’t escape, that’s just displacement. The good guys did it, after all.
How fucking ironic that you say this.
Only if you miss the fact that I’m implicitly conceding that Western nations are ALSO committing crimes against humanity.
The world isn’t a binary where you have to deny some atrocities in able to be capable of condemning others.
Excuse me, I’m just going to go murder someone to gain the superpower of being able to accuse anyone I want of being a murderer
Oh, how magnanimous of you, lol.
Still deeply ironic that you said that though, while perfectly demonstrating exactly why it isn’t true.
Never said that there’s anything magnanimous or otherwise special about acknowledging objective reality rather than ignoring anything that contradicts tribalist dogma. Just because you’re incapable of it doesn’t make it a flex.
That makes no sense whatsoever.
You acted like anyone should give a single nutty shit that you were so nobley willing to concede that the US is bad (but only as bad, never worse), despite it being completely irrelevant.
Lol, Westerners really are the most brainwashed people on earth: they can’t even parse ideas contrary to their programming, let alone accept them.
Nope. Just clarifying what you missed and how it negated your claim about mine being ironic.
Yet another strawman. Sometimes the US does worse things than China, sometimes China does worse things than the US. Neither ever cancel each other out as committing atrocities is NOT a zero sum competition.
Again, me being able to acknowledge atrocities without resorting to whataboutism is relevant. As is your inability to do so.
Me reaching the absolute baseline of intellectual honesty doesn’t make me special. You not accomplishing even that makes YOU special.
Wow. That’s Donald Trump levels of lacking self-awareness 😆🤦
But china doesnt do that
Projection is when the usa propaganda takes one of its own crimes and changes all mentions of “usa” to “china”
I’m pretty sure china does because that’s what all authoritarian empires have done and are doing throughout history.
If there’s no evidence it just means they covered it up well enougg
https://www.greanvillepost.com/2018/10/06/left-anticommunism-the-unkindest-cut/
Ah but have you considered my prejudices? I Think you’ll find them QUITE unfalsifiable
Checkmate tankie
^ this is actually whataboutism
You’re sure China is doing it is because (checks notes), Europeans did it?
Listen to yourself. You are not engaged in reasoning, you are engaged in projection.
Consider that China has watched European empire so this sort of thing, determined it to be ineffective at producing a stable society, and is choosing to not do that thing.
Damn, you’re just straight up doing the thing from the Parenti quote without even pretending otherwise.
I’m sure you can provide reliable evidence of all these crimes against humanity. Evidence that is not merely made up assertions from western news media, politicians, and other dubious sources. But I won’t wait up.
Nope, not all of them. Not because they didn’t happen. Because there’s too many to list in a week of non stop writing, which is about a week more than your bad faith requests deserve.
Yeah, you haven’t made up your mind already, nuh-uh! You’re DEFINITELY completely objective and the keeper of the Real Truth! 🙄
Wow, what a vicious and original barb! You must be feared throughout the lying West! Such eloquence! 🤦
Awfully convenient how everyone always draws this arbitrary, bizarre moral line in the sand about how they can’t provide any evidence for any of their claims about China.
As I told the other tankie: your willful ignorance of history is neither my fault nor my responsibility.
Willful ignorance of history is when you demand documentation of history
Not pictured: a single source lmao. Your words mean nothing if you can’t back them up.
points to the majority of history
Take your pick. I’m not being paid to reach you what you should already know and would if not for your ideological blinders.
Westerners like you truly are the most brainwashed people on earth.
Also it’s fucking hilarious that you’re calling other people tankies when you were calling for people to be lined up against a wall and shot less than an hour ago.
Again with the famous tankie self-awareness
Yeah, because using a figure of speech means that I want that thing to literally happen 🙄
Doesn’t it hurt to be more dense than a neutron star?
So I am supposed to just believe it because you said so?
Nope, you’re supposed to believe it because it’s already been thoroughly and accurately documented countless times for several decades.
Your ignorance of history is neither my fault nor my responsibility.
By who?
Far too many to mention. You’re acting exactly like a Zionist does whenever a human rights org, scholar, journalist, or anyone else points out the obvious abuses of the Israeli apartheid regime.
Woah. I had no idea both of our countries were pieces of shit. I thought it was just China!
/s