Chinese authorities wrongfully detained more than 20 Tibetans and severely tortured a Tibetan village head named Gonpo Namgyal to death with the repeated use of electric equipment in detention for several months in Ponkor township, Darlag County in Golog in the traditional Tibetan province of Amdo now incorporated into Qinghai, Sichuan and Gansu provinces.
I’m sure you can provide reliable evidence of all these crimes against humanity. Evidence that is not merely made up assertions from western news media, politicians, and other dubious sources. But I won’t wait up.
Nope, not all of them. Not because they didn’t happen. Because there’s too many to list in a week of non stop writing, which is about a week more than your bad faith requests deserve.
Yeah, you haven’t made up your mind already, nuh-uh! You’re DEFINITELY completely objective and the keeper of the Real Truth! 🙄
Wow, what a vicious and original barb! You must be feared throughout the lying West! Such eloquence! 🤦
Awfully convenient how everyone always draws this arbitrary, bizarre moral line in the sand about how they can’t provide any evidence for any of their claims about China.
As I told the other tankie: your willful ignorance of history is neither my fault nor my responsibility.
Willful ignorance of history is when you demand documentation of history
Not pictured: a single source lmao. Your words mean nothing if you can’t back them up.
points to the majority of history
Take your pick. I’m not being paid to reach you what you should already know and would if not for your ideological blinders.
Why do you trust the Tibetan government in exile? What have they done that makes them trustworthy?
You need to read the majority of history. In the last 600 years, the majority of history is European empire expanding to dominate 80% of the world’s population. Nearly everything you can point to that you would be aware will simply reinforce that the European project is the source of all the things you think “everyone” does.
The reality is that China is fighting against the European empire and through that process in the last 75 years they committed some atrocities. But they did so in the context of being a military, not being an empire. The empire was occupying critical parts of China, like the 5 treaty ports and Hong Kong. The empire was training Tibetan terrorists and airifting them into Tibet to cause havoc. The empire was fabricating stories about China.
For example, take the second most famous picture of Tiananmen Square. You know the one - a bunch of bodies lying on the ground. Go find that picture and zoom in. They’re actually bicycles. But for decades I believed that they were bodies, because that’s how we’re raised in the West.
You are the one with ideological blinders on. You and I and everyone in the West were raised on red scare propaganda. We were raised on European worship. We were raised on American exceptionalism. Our education downplayed our atrocities and magnified the atrocities of others. Our education told false narratives of why things were done and what the effects were.
Those of us in the West who support China have removed those ideological blinders through years of research and arguing with each other and others. It is hard to give up the lies of our parents, the lies of the mass media, the lies of our bosses, our friends, our family. It is isolating, it is risky, it can cost us our grades, our jobs, our relationships.
You, on the other hand, have beliefs that are in lockstep with the propaganda, with the goals of the US State Dept, with the US military, with what you were educated in since you were a baby. Your beliefs are congruent with our cartoons, with our racist jokes, with our war propaganda.
When you don’t have blinders on, you come into conflict with reality. Instead, you are receding into fantasy. You have been asked to back up your claims and you retreat by waving at history and saying “it’s all there for you too look at” not realizing that we already have and continuously do and that’s why we’re asking you for sources. If you start actually digging for truth, you might start to remove your blinders.
Instead, you prefer to assume anyone that disagrees with you is ideologically blind, not realizing that in any country it is the people with the mainstream view that are blinded and that the truth takes work to uncover.
Damn, shitlibs sure get angry when expected to actually back up their claims.
Worse, they get sanctimonious
How does “the majority of history” prove that this specific story is correct?
Or do you just mean, the majority of history proves your ideology correct, which means you now get to make all kinds of unsubstantiated claims without evidence and everyone’s just supposed to believe it?
Westerners like you truly are the most brainwashed people on earth.
Also it’s fucking hilarious that you’re calling other people tankies when you were calling for people to be lined up against a wall and shot less than an hour ago.
Again with the famous tankie self-awareness
Yeah, because using a figure of speech means that I want that thing to literally happen 🙄
Doesn’t it hurt to be more dense than a neutron star?
Again, literally all you have is “no I”. Which doesn’t even make sense because we’re both submerged in the same all pervasive soup of western propaganda.
Loooooool. This might be the weakest backtrack I’ve ever seen in my life.
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“Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.” -Jean-Paul Sartre
Hey, look at that, western fascists like you were the same in the last century too.
So I am supposed to just believe it because you said so?
Nope, you’re supposed to believe it because it’s already been thoroughly and accurately documented countless times for several decades.
Your ignorance of history is neither my fault nor my responsibility.
By who?
Far too many to mention. You’re acting exactly like a Zionist does whenever a human rights org, scholar, journalist, or anyone else points out the obvious abuses of the Israeli apartheid regime.
But you can’t even mention just one, not a single one.
Won’t ≠ can’t.
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