Version 0.19.X Deployment
Hello world!
I’m sure many of you fine folks have been wondering why we have not upgraded to version 0.19.X yet.
The whole team here has been getting asked this question quite a bit, from both members of the community and other instance admins. We want everyone to know, YES, we will upgrade to version 0.19.
We do not have a hard date set for when we will be upgrading as of yet, as we have about 7 associated task items that go along with this upgrade for things we need to double-check and confirm there will be no breakage.
Another big reason why we have not upgraded is due to reports from other instance admins that the front-end GUI can have performance issues. While a large portion of folks access our site using apps on their phones, we would rather not degrade the user experience for the rest of everyone else.
Worst case in terms of UI slowness, we would ask everyone to use either Alexandrite () or Photon () to mitigate the potential performance issues.
One final point to mention to address the delay is that we usually wait 1-2 weeks after a new release before applying it to production. This was complicated by the fact that there were multiple releases right after each other, with each new release having issues we hoped would be patched in the NEXT version. A new version would come up, and we would have to evaluate the stability and performance of it, which would take about 2 weeks, and then ANOTHER version would come out, which we would need to test. This was further complicated by the fact this was during the holiday season.
| Version | Release Date |
|---|---|
| 0.19.0 | 2023-12-15 |
| 0.19.1 | 2023-12-20 |
| 0.19.2 | 2024-01-10 |
| 0.19.3 | 2024-01-24 |
For us, stability is paramount, as we care very much about keeping everyone happy here.
While we can appreciate the rapid release of patches on 0.19, I hope everyone can now understand the delay. If all goes well, we will set a release day in the next week or two, most likely on a Saturday around 1800 UTC.
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We do not have a hard date set for when we will be upgrading as of yet, as we have about 7 associated task items that go along with this upgrade for things we need to double-check and confirm there will be no breakage.
Are there tickets open for these tasks so we can see what you’re waiting for? Genuinely wondering
We dont have a public Roadmap yet, but we will have to test it in multiple steps. And we dont want to get suprised with bugs ( like those in 0.19.0/1/2 )
Sounds like the reasoning of someone who eats Jello for dessert…sensible and safe.
If all goes well, we will set a release day in the next week or two, most likely on a Saturday around 1800 UTC.
Any chance we get can get a status update?
We’re going on four weeks from the initial statement. The lack of status updates is what bothers me the most. I understand delays, but please let us know. It just looks like it’s been forgotten about.
@Thekingoflorda@lemmy.world, we understand this is a volunteer effort, but as the community lead, would you be able to shed some light into the status of the upgrade? I don’t think we are asking or pressuring for the upgrade to happen ASAP, just some transparency would be nice. We’re two weeks past the proposed update, and almost a month beyond the last communication on the topic. Appreciate what you all do to provide the community for us, we ask because we care.
You tagged the wrong admin (am not part of the tech team), but I’ll forward it to the other admins (:
@avguser@lemmy.world We are planning on trying to upgrade on 03-03-2024, we’ll be announcing it formally in the next day or so.
Thank you for the update.
Thanks for the transparency. I’m firmly of the “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it” school. Upgrading to 0.19 is important for security, but until it is stable, it is also a risk.
Neat. Good to see constant improvement.
Unrelated: What ever happened to the weekly LW community spotlight? It hasn’t been updated in like a month
The admin that organized that has left the team. I’m the new solo-lead for the community team, and will try to get that started again soon. Any suggestions for communities are more than welcome!
That makes sense. I was just wondering, since spotlight seemed like such a good idea on rollout.
As for communities, I’m way deeper into the hobby side of lemmy. Showing off
or
would all personally be great to me.
Just posted the new spotlight, thank you for reminding me (:
Wow! Fast. Thanks so much for taking over and doing all the admin-y things!
I for one am glad you take your time. I jumped ship from another instance that upgraded to 0.19 back in december and was almost unusable far into january. It’s now on 0.19.3 and while federation seems to work again, it’s still quite slow and unstable.
Lebowski.Social has also held back with the 0.19 upgrade. We are monitoring lemmy.world for now and will make our upgrade after that most likely.
I just love how professional the Lemmy instances have become. They went from having stability issues to being extremely stable. I love our Lemmy community.
Keep up the good work!
I just love how professional the Lemmy instances have become.
Too bad upstream Lemmy development didn’t adapt. The early 0.19 releases left several big instances hanging with severe bugs leaving them practically unusable.
In the developers defense, there are some bugs that don’t appear until a a certain workload threshold is crossed. It’s entirely possible for code to pass all tests and yet break when under heavy load in the real world (which can be difficult to simulate).
Yeah many bugs are difficult to catch, but the federation and timestamp issue, was something different and almost like a joke that got out of hand.
the federation and timestamp issue, was something different and almost like a joke that got out of hand.
YOLO-driven development
The testing in production development
The testing in production development
That’s what Mastodon developers seem to do but ahead of formally releasing new versions and on their own instance only:
Lemmy devs have pushed RCs to lemmy.ml in the past.
Everyone has a test enviroment, some are lucky to have a separate production enviroment
0.19 breaks jerboa and idk if/ when that is getting updated
@dessalines@lemmy.ml released v0.0.51 in mid December, but I think it only reached Google Play on Dec 18th. I’m not sure when/if it was pushed up to f-Droid.
There are some minor issues, but largely it works fine for me on instances running 0.19
That’s weird I’ve gotten no notification there was an update out
Did you install from Google Play?
Open the Play Store link on your phone - the automatic update process has been thoroughly broken for at least a year.
If you installed from f-Droid I have no clue - I use stock android without any alternate stores set up.
Hey ever since the update boost won’t show my subscriptions and my post/comment history, I can only browse in all
Is this a known issue that I should bring up with the boost people?
Edit: I logged in to the wrong instance lol
Edit: I logged in to the wrong instance lol
That’ll do it.
Literally what we as admins feel like.
“Now it’s gonna take longer because you asked”
Correct
🐹🏆
no rush. most don’t notice minor changes. thanks
Take your time, stability and uptime is most important. Thank you :-)
Thank you for all your hard work!
So ,if everything goes well the first update will be Saturday 10 februari around 18.00 UTC, and then every two weeks? Bonne Chance!
