• Shardikprime@lemmy.world
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    10 days ago

    Totally a buy opportunity. Long-term obviously. Especially in a recession.

    Now into the why of the fall? There’s a new proposed bill to regulate HMOs, they don’t know what will happen there but with the public supporting it, it might be risky bet.

    That and their latest balance wasn’t that good. I mean these types of companies have like a 6 to 11 percent profit margin. That’s not much money actually overall

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    12 days ago

    An entire industry built on taking money they didn’t earn to deny the care our doctors prescribe for us… Are we stupid??

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      11 days ago

      It’s not stupidity, because over 99% of us didn’t have a choice. It’s greed. Greedy little piggy leaders of major systems designed to fuck over everyone but them.

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        10 days ago

        My default response to this is what was voter turnout for the last election? People are fond of referring to the 4 boxes: soap, ballot, jury, and cartridge, but they don’t bother with the second.

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          I’ve literally never heard a single person refer to these 4 boxes, so I must take issue with your assertion that people are fond of doing it. You’re also seemingly discounting innumerable factors, like the hundreds of billions of dollars spent on distracting and deceiving people into both voting against their best interests, and not voting at all.

          In short, your default response is a reductive and unhelpful platitude. Not trying to be a jerk (it just comes naturally). Best of luck.

      • RagingRobot@lemmy.world
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        12 days ago

        Those people are the only options on the ballot though. We can’t vote for something that’s not an option

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          The fuck are you talking about? First of all, primaries exist. Secondly, with only a few notable exceptions, Democrats favor single-payer. The original ACA was a government healthcare bill with a private option but Joe Lieberman was the holdout and gutted it. Stating otherwise is intellectually dishonest and deliberately ignorant, or at worst a malicious rewrite of history.

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            In the last primary who was calling for a switch to a single payer healthcare system? None of the candidates were talking about that.

            Joe Liberman left office in 2013. That was 11 years ago.

            What the fuck are you talking about about?

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              10 days ago

              I’m pretty sure they meant Joe Manchin.

              The star if the rotating villian game.

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            11 days ago

            It was a private system with a public option, but 6 of 1, half a dozen of the other I guess.

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        12 days ago

        Not only that , but voting for the people who are promising to make it even worse.

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        worse, we vote for healthcare reforms that would take us back to when no one poor got any care at all. we elected our own killers

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    What shit timing for this… Imagine if this happened like a year ago. Maybe Democrats could have actually had a reason to be pushed to talk about this… Seeing how even Magoos were happy the guy got killed maybe things could have been different.

    We live in the stupid timeline though so somehow this will just get worse :/

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      1/3+ of the party wanted Bernie. Twice. And they couldn’t be arsed to talk about it, his primary policy position. They’re still not taking about it. Too much donor money involved for them to give a shit what their voters say.

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      Dems killed off single-payer years ago. Obamacare was designed to be dogshit under their watch. Sorry friend, we both are in the sufferin’-timeline where the DNC never does anything but crush any chance at progressive policy that could “hurt” their rich donors

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        That not entirely accurate. Just a wander through the wiki on the history of the ACA shows what happened, both the efforts and roadblocks, the improvements to what was before, as well as the limited time frame.

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        Isn’t Obamacare really Romneycare with Democratic support? They compromised so much to get it through. Manchin and the like, the thorn in the Democratic party. But yeah, Berniecare would be much better, partly because I think he cares a lot more than a lot of politicians.

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      Had a reason? They already had a reason. They had thousands of reasons. Thousands of Americans dying due to the shit industry. Is that not a reason enough for Democrats?

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        They always had the excuse of “people love their healthcare!” That’s the line that was always trotted out. It would be pretty difficult to keep that line when we’re literally executing healthcare CEOs and having a positive nationwide reaction to it.

        If journalists would actually do their proper duty for the population and not their masters (lmao) they’d start pushing representatives on the topic as it relates to the response.

        (Instead though we get articles like “Bad luck Brian was the working class hero, not Luigi” from the NYT. 🤮)

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          Bernie’s Medicare For All plan has been out there close to a decade now and I would argue that proposal is a huge part of his popularity. Democrats knew that and they told him, and by extension his supporters, to go fuck themselves. They know people want this but they don’t care.

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    11 days ago

    Why are they falling, the market can’t seriously expect the upcoming administration to regulate them.

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    11 days ago

    Sounds like tHe mARkEt thinks something will gut the industry. But there is no indication of actual real change happening. So what’s going on?

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    Good. Shareholding and profiteering off healthcare should not be a thing. It should be a government service not a business, although I’d bet a million dollars I don’t have, that it won’t happen under Trump. And if it ever does happen, they had better fucking plan it to be rock-solid against ruthless cutthroat cheating grifters like him.

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      Health food shelter clothing.

      All of these things should be provided to everyone in every country, paid for by taxes.

      Just eliminate the struggle of the common person from these 4 things is a goal worth being a prime prime directive