Taylor Swift is living every woman’s AI porn nightmare — Deepfake nudes of the pop star are appearing all over social media. We all saw this coming.::Deepfake nudes of the pop star are appearing all over social media. We all saw this coming.
I wonder if this winds up with revenge porn no longer being a thing? Like, if someone leaks nudes of me I can just say it’s a deepfake?
Probably a lot of pain for women from mouth breathers before we get there from here .
Why would it make revenge porn less of a thing? Why are so many people here convinced that as long people say it’s “fake” it’s not going to negatively affect them?
The mouth breathers will never go away. They might even use the excuse the other way around, that because someone could say just about everything is fake, then it might be real and the victim might be lying. Remember that blurry pictures of bigfoot were enough to fool a lot of people.
Hell, even others believe it is fake, wouldn’t it still be humilliating?
The default assumption will be that a video is fake. In the very near future you will be able to say “voice assistant thing show me a video of that cute girl from the cafe today getting double teamed by robocop and an ewok wearing a tu-tu”. It will be so trivial to create this stuff that the question will be “why were you watching a naughty video of me” rather than “omg I can’t believe this naughty video of me exists”.
The mouth breathers will never go away. You’re the mouth breather.
I think you’re underestimating the potential effects of an entire society starting to distrust pictures/video. Yeah a blurry Bigfoot fooled an entire generation, but nowadays most people you talk to will say it’s doctored. Scale that up to a point where literally anyone can make completely realistic pics/vids of anything in their imagination, and have it be indistinguishable from real life? I think there’s a pretty good chance that “nope, that’s a fake picture of me” will be a believable, no question response to just about anything. It’s a problem
There are still people to believe in Bigfoot and UFOs, there’s still people falling for hoaxes every day. To the extent that distrust is spreading, it’s not manifested as widespread reasonable skepticism but the tendency to double down on what people already believe. There are more flat earthers today than there were decades ago.
We are heading to a point that if anyone says deepfake porn is fake, regardless of reasons and arguments, people might just think it’s real just because they feel like it might be. At this point, this isn’t even a new situation. Just like people skip reputable scientific and journalistic sources in favor of random blogs that validate what they already believe, they will treat images, deepfaked or not, much in the same way.
So, at best, some people might believe the victim regardless, but some won’t no matter what is said, and they will treat them as if those images are real.
This strikes me as correct, it’s kind of more complicated than just the blanket statement of “oh, everyone will have too calloused of a mind to believe anything ever again”. People will just try to intuit truth from surrounding context in a vacuum, much like how they do with our current every day reality where I’m really just a brain in a vat or whatever.
I hope someone sends your mom a deepfake of you being dismembered with a rusty saw. I’m sure the horror will fade with time.
What a horrible thing to wish on a random person on the internet. Maybe take a break on being so reactionary, jesus
Australia’s federal legislation making non-consensual sharing of intimate images an offense includes doctored or generated images because that’s still extremely harmful to the victim and their reputation.
I mean, not much happened to protect women after The Fappening, and that happened to boatloads of famous women with lots of money, too.
Arguably, not any billionaires, so we’ll see I guess.
A deep fake is still humiliating
This has already been a thing in courts with people saying that audio of them was generated using AI. It’s here to stay, and almost nothing is going to be ‘real’ anymore unless you’ve seen it directly first-hand.
first-hand.
the first-hand in question:
At least now, if pictures are real, you can say it’s AI generated.
Still, to be honest, I’ve never understood how some people can let one night stands film them naked.
If it’s a longtime girlfriend or boyfriend and they betray you, it’s different, but people aren’t acting in a clever way when it comes to sex.
There’s nothing wrong with recording your naked body and it being seen online by willing persons.
The people who would disrespect you for it, they’re the problem.
That’s not what I’m talking about.
I’m talking about not being careful who you’re giving these images if you don’t want them to spread online. And, of course, the person sharing it on the web is the guilty person, not the naked victim.
Well, you don’t have that many brain cells in the areas people are doing that thinking.
Yeah, I’m sure next time she’s looking for a job her potential employer will google her name and when he find this fake porn will not hire like. She will forever be haunted by this and her career and personal life will suffer. You know, every woman’s nightmare.
You clearly don’t get it, and might be beyond understanding any explanation.
Same to you my friend, same to you.
I think @ExLisper is saying Taylor swift is not living other women’s porn nightmare - other women need to worry about career impacts and the effect on their capability to earn money and support their families, which taylor, being the industry powerhouse and billionaire she is, need not be really concerned by.
The same way every other issue affects different classes of society differently.
The victim’s financial status doesn’t make it less harmful because the victim can afford led to take a hit.
Yes, yes it does.
It doesn’t make it right to target rich people, and it doesn’t diminish the harm she feels from the act, but it does mean she doesn’t suffer as much as others would be suffering as a whole when you consider all other indirect impacts.
Exactly. She also doesn’t have to worry that the guy she’s dating saw it and will dump her or that her co-workers saw it and are spreading rumours at work. She has to worry about her multimillion dollar brand which is something other women don’t really have issues with. It’s terrible for her but to claim that she somehow represents other woman in this is ridiculous.
Aaaah. So she’s not a victim then. Glad you could clear that up.
Dumbass.
Good job with your reading comprehension. Give yourself a pat in the back, please.
People have been doing these for years even before AGI.
Now, it’s just faster.
Edit: Sorry, I suppose I should mean LLM AI
AGI continues to exist purely in the realm of science fiction.
I think they might have used AGI to mean “AI Generated Images” which I’ve seen used in a few places, not know that AGI is already a term in the AI lexicon.
Agi? Where
Gcan we get some links?
Fake celebrity porn has existed since before photography, in the form of drawings and impersonators. At this point, if you’re even somewhat young and good-looking (and sometimes even if you’re not), the fake porn should be expected as part of the price you pay for fame. It isn’t as though the sort of person who gets off on this cares whether the pictures are real or not—they just need them to be close enough that they can fool themselves.
Is it right? No, but it’s the way the world is, because humans suck.
Honestly, the way I look at it is that the real offense is publishing.
While still creepy, it would be hard to condemn someone for making fakes for personal consumption. Making an AI fake is the high-tech equivalent of gluing a cutout of your crush’s face onto a playboy centerfold. It’s hard to want to prohibit people from pretending.
But posting those fakes online is the high-tech, scaled-up version of xeroxing the playboy centerfold with your crush’s face on it, and taping up copies all over town for everyone to see.
Obviously, there’s a clear line people should not cross, but it’s clear that without laws to deter it, AI fakes are just going to circulate freely.
Yup, it’s all the more frustrating when you take into account that social media sites do have the capability to know if an image is NSFW, and if it matches the face of a celebrity. Knowing Taylors fan base, they are probably quickly reported.
It’s mainly twitter as well, and it’s clear they are letting this go on to drum up controversy.
AI fake is the high-tech equivalent of gluing a cutout of your crush’s face onto a playboy centerfold.
At first I read that as “cousin’s face” and I was like “bru, that’s oddly specific.” Lol
Humans are horrible, but a main-stream social media platform should not be a celebration of it. People need to demand change and then leave if ignored. I seem to hear people demanding change. The next step has more impetus.
Bet that whoever is doing it is either a hardcore neckbeard simp, or a butthurt conservative. They’re similar, but not the same.
I’m only here for the articles… anyone has the articles to “read” the real deal?
At this point just bing it
Is this a Playboy joke
no, jokes are another section. he’s talking about the fine Playboy editorial pieces.
I know, I figured he was referencing that. The old “I only buy playboy for the articles”
God what a garbage article:
On X—which used to be called Twitter before it was bought by billionaire edgelord Elon Musk
I mean, really? The guy makes my skin crawl, but what a hypocritically edgy comment to put into an article.
And then zero comment from Taylor Swift in it at all. She is basically just speaking for her. Not only that, but she anoints herself spokesperson for all women…while also pretty conspicuously ignoring that men can be victims of this too.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not defending non consensual ai porn in the least, and I assume the author and I are mostly in agreement about the need for something to be done about it.
But it’s trashy politically charged and biased articles like this that make people take sides on things like this. Imo, the author is contributing to the problems of society she probably wants to fix.
On the contrary, I find it more ridiculous when news media pretends like nothing is wrong over at Twitter HQ. I wish more journalists would call Musk out like this every time they’re forced to mention Twitter.
Can you really see nothing other than “pretending nothing is wrong” and “calling musk an edge lord?”
I see the media calling out the faults regularly regularly without needing to act like …well, an edge lord.
Professionalism was thrown out the window the moment orange man became president. The Republicans play dirty, so everyone else has to as well, or else they’ll walk all over us. Taking the high ground is a dead concept.
I strongly disagree, but this is completely unrelated to what I said.
I have ADHD so I forgot what we were talking about even before I started commenting.
hypocritically edgy comment to put into an article.
Its vice, their whole brand is edgy. Calling Elon an edgelord is very on brand for them.
pretty conspicuously ignoring that men can be victims of this too.
Sure, but women are disproportionately affected by this. You’re making the “all lives matter” argument of AI porn
make people take sides on things like this
People should be taking sides on this.
Just seems like you wanna get mad for no reason? I read the article, and it doesn’t come across nearly as bad as you would lead anyone to believe. This article is about deepfake pornography as a whole, and how is can (and more importantly HAS) affected women, including minors. Sure it would have been nice to have a comment from Taylor, but i really don’t think it was necessary.
Its vice, their whole brand is edgy. Calling Elon an edgelord is very on brand for them.
I’ve come across this source before and don’t recall being so turned off by the tone. If this is on brand for them, then my criticism is not limited to the author.
Sure, but women are disproportionately affected by this. You’re making the “all lives matter” argument of AI porn
You have a point, but I disagree. Black lives matter is effectively saying that black lives currently don’t matter (mainly when it comes to policing). All lives matter is being dismissive of that claim because no one really believes that white lives don’t matter to police. Pointing to the fact that there are male victims too is not dismissive of the fact that women are the primary victims of this. It’s almost the opposite and ignoring males is being dismissive of victims.
People should be taking sides on this.
Sorry, wasn’t clear on that point. What I was saying here is this will make people take sides based on their politics rather than on the merits of whether it’s wrong in and of itself.
i really don’t think it was necessary.
Neither was her speaking for swift, nor all of women kind, nor only making it about women, nor calling musk an edge lord. You seem to be making the same argument as me.
I disagree. To pretend nothing is wrong is worse. The author was accurate in their description here.
This is the second poster here who can’t seem to understand that there is a whole world of things between “pretending nothing is wrong” and acting like a child by calling people “edge lord.”
Last time I checked, on my front page, there was an article from the NY times about how x is spreading misinformation and musk seems to be part of it. yet they managed to point out this problem without using the term edge lord. Is this shocking to you?
On X—which used to be called Twitter before it was bought by billionaire edgelord Elon Musk
I mean, really? The guy makes my skin crawl, but what a hypocritically edgy comment to put into an article.
How is that comment hypocritical?
Had big “people calling people edgelords are the real edgelords” type vibes to it, which I’ll file in the circular file right next to its cousin “people calling people racists are the real racists”.
Edit: A couple of posts down the dude almost says that quote verbatim.
I’m not saying she shouldn’t have complained about this. She has every right to, but complaining about it definitely made the problem a lot worse.
This is probably a good thing even if real nudes leaked nobody would know if it’s real
Streisand Effect or something.
This is something negative that can impact her not something negative she did that she’d like us to forget.
She oughta make a stink and put a spotlight on it if it’s gonna hurt her image.
Except she’s the most famous woman in the country, a well-established sex symbol, and already the subject of enumerable erotic fantasies and fictions.
Its the same problem as “The Fappening” from forever ago. The fact that this exists is its own fuel and whether she chooses to acknowledge it or not is a moot point. Someone is going to talk about it and the news will spread.
she drew so much attention to it though that there are more news stories than actual images at this point. if you look for the images, you’re gonna have to go through pages and pages of news articles about it at this point. not sure if it was intentional, but kinda worked…
This a problem that doesn’t just affect her though. Not discussing the problem means it doesn’t get worse for her, but does continue to happen to other people.
Discussing it means it gets worse for her but there could be potentially be solutions found. Solutions that would help her and other people affected.
Worst case scenario is no solution is found, but the people making AI porn make more Taylor Swift AI porn which results in less resources being devoted towards making AI porn of other people. This makes things worse for Swift but better for other people.
TLDR; Taylor Swift is a saint and is operating a level that us petty sinners can’t comprehend.
Went to Bing and found “Taylor swift ai pictures” as a top search. LOTS of images of her being railed by Sesame Street characters
This shit is gross in general but she absolutely markets herself as a sex icon. I guarantee you she’s not that upset about more free publicity.
What?
Read up on her. She 100% portrays a product and sells that product. She knows what she’s doing.
Bruh
She’s literally said that in interviews. She’s super smart. She knows her persona is a product. That’s not a jab. Every famous person that has a personal brand does this. Her brand just happens to be called the same as her name.
No I get that, but her personal or brand is not her getting fucked. Just because she is attractive and makes money playing music and shit doesn’t mean that her brand is sex appeal
I didn’t say anything about porn. But if you think she doesn’t understand and leverage sex appeal… I just don’t know what to tell you.
It sort of sounds like your argument is 'she was asking for it" which I don’t necessarily agree with.
Some of them are really good too, in a realistic sense. You can tell they are AI though.
Ya yuge nightmare being a billionaire must be. Poor rich person
So you’re saying that the more wealth a person has, the more they deserve crimes against them? Come one know kid. Do you really want to think this way?
That’s not their point and you know it. Get your bad faith debating tactics out of here.
She isn’t living “every woman’s nightmare” because a woman without the wealth and influence Taylor has might actually suffer significant consequences. For Taylor, it’s just a weird Tuesday. For an average small town lady, it might mean loss of a job, loss of mate, estrangement from family and friends… That’s a nightmare.
So she’s less a victim because she’s wealthy? My god you people can justify anything, can’t you?
That is exactly it. She will suffer less compared to someone else this might have happened to, an dif you define victimhood on a spectrum, she’s less victim than Housewife Community leader preschool teacher Margaret from Montana.
Gross dude. Very gross. Blocking you now as someone who thinks the wealthy can’t be victimized can’t possibly have anything of value to contribute.
Do better.
The guy said less victimized and you conclude he meant cannot be victimized. Can you be any more stupid?
Since you have nothing worthwhile to say, I’m going to go ahead and block your annoying ass.
You just keep shifting your argument to create some sort of sympathy. I guess. No one says a rich person isn’t a victim. The point is is being a victim as a wealthy and influential woman like Taylor is a lot different than being a victim in a working class context. If you disagree with that, then you’re either being intellectually dishonest or living in a dream world.
Even the law agrees. It’s a lot harder as a celebrity to win a defamation lawsuit than it is being a normal person. You typically have to show actual malice. Frankly, that’s the legal standard that would probably apply to any lawsuit involving the deep fakes anyway.
The wealth of the victim doesn’t change the crime.
It’s not a crime.
So, creating nude AI deepfakes isn’t a crime? Then there’s no victims at all. What’s everyone talking about then?
Every thread man. Feels like reddit with tired references. You’re not even the first in this thread to reference it.
Now you do it
