Luigi Mangione shouts a message to the American people on his way to court:

“This is completely unjust and an insult to the intelligence of the American people and their lived experience.”

  • Alph4d0g@discuss.tchncs.de
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    Well … um … you reported that he shouted in your headline but didn’t see the irony in what he was saying as you reported it. Nice job, Newsweek for supporting his statement through your actions.

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    What does he think is unjust? Hopefully he has some prison writings later that can be analyzed.

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    Obviously they want to make an example. They’ll drag him through the mud in court, reveal that he was sexually deviant, claim he cheated on tests in school, played video games, played d&d, worshipped Satan, on and on. Then, when they’ve dragged the court out long enough to bore people, they’ll execute him publicly and call it justice.

    They won’t epstein him, too obvious and likely to generate martyrdom. Killing him like a “common murderer” shows that “the system works” and that the machinery of the state’s actions are natural and inevitable.

    Or maybe they’ll try to just lock him away forever and get him to write some books to make the prisons a little more money. Works for serial killers, and sales of “How to murder a CEO” will help to defuse revolutionary sentiment by recuperating the murder as an exotic one-off situation. He’s gonna get simple-ricked.

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      That’s a great fantasy, but New York doesn’t have the death penalty, and he didn’t commit a federal crime. He won’t get the death penalty, he’ll likely get first degree murder and serve 30-life assuming they can show he targeted the actual victim and it wasn’t just the first person he saw that looked like they might be a UHG executive.

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      played video games

      I know you’re joking, but there’s already articles claiming him playing Among Us was proof he was a bad egg.

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        He played as an ASSASIN in his college ESports team, terrible right? This tells you everything you need to know so don’t do any more research and certainly this video game was his motive.

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        i am sure boomers will fall for it lol

        but do they really expect that to not backfire with anyone who with two brain cell esp considered the game itself.

        this guy played a game for kids!!! RHEEEE

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    law enforcement, the media, and every other avenue that was once impartial enough to havea shot at fair treatment from them have all been bought by the very fatcats that are crying the loudest

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    They don’t want him in front of a jury.

    Regardless if it’s him or not. They cannot afford him to get acquitted.

    But they can’t martyr him. That will be a death sentence to the US.

    This isn’t going to end well for anyone. This guy has shown a much darker picture of the US to us that we all know too well.

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      the thing is, I think they can afford for him to be acquitted on the murder charges. the way the evidence was presented, he had a ghost gun and an illegal suppressor as well. whether they were planted or not is still up for debate, but that’s a slam dunk case that they can just give the maximum sentence for and move on. I don’t think the murder charges actually matter. I imagine if they can’t get him on murder we’ll quickly find out he was manufacturing drugs or some of bs charge they can give hime another 20 year sentence for and if the judge rules they can’t be served concurrently then bam, still a life sentence

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        Difference is that Epstein got whacked and his /clients/ let it happen.

        Luigi has real fans, who see what he did as a reflection of their own discontent.

        If something happens to him in jail, I believe that would still count as the aforementioned martyrdom.

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          Yup. Epstein getting killed was inevitable, but it’s not like he had many fans; child molesters don’t tend to win popularity contests (unless it’s running for the highest seat in the country…) His death had people upset, but only because it meant he wouldn’t be able to testify against all the billionaires. He was only working against the billionaires because the prosecutors were forcing him to do so.

          But Luigi is a symbol of someone actively working against the billionaires, and killing him will turn him into a martyr.

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      Yeah, I have a sneaking suspicion that hes going to commit suicide via 2 gunshots to the back of the head, with every security camera in the facility malfunctioning during it and that every other inmate in the vicinity was coincidentally unconscious.

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      Imho, as painful as it is, avoiding a civil war at this point does more harm than good over time. It kicks the can down the road until their side exclusively can use humanoid robots to fight their battles for them, and that just means get in line and die until collapse.

      The alternative is even darker, our non-wealthy children being judged by AI as to whether the potential profit/loss of healing them is greater or less than their remaining exploitation value.

      And that’s just in Healthcare. Our entire economy has become this sociopathic.

      This is silent slaughter. No one should confuse quiet with peace. We haven’t had peace for a long time.

      They don’t care if only the top 5% is free on the backs of the 95%, they don’t see the bottom 95% as human at all. I don’t think society should continue under that bargain. It isn’t worth it. No one is free until everyone is.

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        Our entire economy has become this sociopathic.

        I don’t think that it has recently become sociopathic. It was certainly much worse in the past with the genocide of the Americas and slavery of Africans. I would argue that the ethics of the economy have improved, but the general public has become increasingly aware of how unjust it is.

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          . I would argue that the ethics of the economy have improved,

          The Reagan era was a glorification of greed. Before then, CEOs were expected to care about all the stakeholders of a company. Not just stockholders but also customers and employees and the general community. A large amount of enshitification resulted from the glorification of greed era. For example, tuition at public universities went from very reasonable to absurdly expensive. Health care deductibles went from $250 to $6000. Anti-trust law stopped being enforced etc.

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          Our economy was most fair when Unions had some power. From the 50s to the 70s, there was a corrupt equilibrium when Conservatives were bribed by business and liberals were bribed by unions, until they were convinced to take the larger corporate bribe checks and joined the owner movement to undermine unions. Today’s neoliberals. That is when, at least on economic policy, we effectively lost our vote. Then we lost our protest with designated protest zones out of the eyelines and profit operations of those being protested, which is effectively masturbation.

          I think it’s inevitable when you don’t inflict close to 100% enforced taxation above ludicrous levels of wealth accumulation. Because wealth at a certain level beyond material desires becomes power. Society warping levels of power, power to warp public opinion through media and captured education, power to neuter your own regulators through bribed politicians passing legislation written by the owners themselves(see ALEC), and no one should have such unelected power.

          No one.

          Part of the reason we know it’s gotten this bad, closer to a return to the 1920s with child labor on the rise, is because there were some less unfair decades, and it’s no surprise those decades came in the wake of the owner class created great depression.

          Now people watch wealthy people like the Kardashians as role models, when they should spit onto the street in disgust when such people walk by. Greed hurts people. Greed is a blight, a personal failing we’ve been propagandized to nurture.

          If you can’t be happy only making enough for 2 big houses and 1 regular yacht and to indulge your hobbies for the century give or take you’ll be alive, you’re broken inside, and need mental healthcare, not enablers for your God complex.

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        This is silent slaughter. No one should confuse quiet with peace. We haven’t had peace for a long time.

        “True peace is not the absence of tension; it is the presence of justice.” – MLK Jr.

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            His family proved in court that the government killed him, but every judge in criminal courts refused to let the case go to trial, so it was only a civil court case. But the judge was convinced by the evidence and found the government guilty and dues were awarded.

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    They’re setting him up to be too scared to face trial, so he killed himself. They talked about how much he was shaking since he got approached by police, he’s pissing himself apparently. Dude is gunna get killed so he can’t talk on the stand. The last thing the oligarchs want is for this guy to have more of a platform.

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      Well the swine killed George Floyd.

      If they kill him, protest is the only thing working class can do practically so gonna need to hit the streets.

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        So we didn’t get justice system reform after the George floydd protests. This is the 1% telling us the next one will have to be even bigger.

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          They could be setting up to test their response. Floyd protests caught them by surprise.

          I was always wondering how Floyd’s death got picked as poster child when there were matter candidates from PR/narrative perspetive for the working class.

          Taylor was a nurse murdered in cold blood due to botched warrant by local PD when they were going after her ex boyfriend. There was nothing bad to spin about her unlikely Floyd. Floyd did get liberal site going but official right narrative worked on critical of right working class. It was divisive.

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          If they kill him they’ll have begun another American Revolution, this one freeing Americans from the evil capitalist scum.

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            Did you forget that an evil capitalist scum who’s only claim to fame is that he’s rich just won both the popular and the electoral vote?

            I think a lot of you have forgotten who won the election.

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              Lenin’s coup needed 40k people. The Russian Republic had a population of 161 million people.

              On a happier note, a single university protest against Stalin’s imperialism spiralled into events that briefly established an independent democratic socialist Hungary free from Soviet-Russian domination.

              The question, if it gets to societal collapse and revolutions, is not “how many people can Trump get to vote for him”, but “what military strength can he get to Washington on short notice”. And it doesn’t matter “who has the guns”. It’s the US. Everyone can get guns at a moment’s notice.

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                Are you really comparing the conditions Americans are living under to the feudalist absolute monarchy under the Czar?

                People in living memory were serfs at the time.

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                  Many revolutions and massive nation changes have happened so quickly that many never saw them coming. The Berlin wall coming down, the Duvalier’s and Assad’s reigns ending are three in relatively recent memory.

                  The thing is that the rich and powerful often miss the signs, if for no other reason than they fundamentally believe they are untouchable … because they are, until they aren’t.

                  What I find amazing is that the rich and powerful continue to be blind to the history of inequality and how many elites are killed, been overthrown and/or have to beg for asylum in foreign nations.

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                  Lenin didn’t coup the Tsars, he couped the fledgling Russian Republic. The Tsar has been in prison for more than six months by then.

                  Nevertheless, the point still stands, a small amount of people can successfully overturn a government. If you need a more recent example, Jan 6th almost succeeded. Imagine if they were just as organized as Lenin’s people.

                  Not saying it would be a good thing.

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        As measured, obtainable, and realistic as your goal is, I fear it will be ineffective. Protesting is practical, safe, and easily ignored. One CEO gets popped, and suddenly there’s murmurs, unified, across the political spectrum. The elites need to know the sheer terror of writhing masses, wielding blunt and rusty tools, awash with unabated malice.

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            The Americans typically do not protest like the French. There are moments in US history with violence and I wonder how many people will continue to fly the The Thin Blue Line because the police protect the property and interests of the wealthy.

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    Here’s my guess as to what’s going on. We all knew that the picture they posted of his face last week was a different dude. Half the internet was saying that. But Luigi realized it looked like him and skipped out of town so he didn’t get in trouble for something he didn’t do. That would explain why he looked sketchy when he was in the McDonald’s. Dude was probably shitting his pants. He was just trying to get out of town before he got falsely ID’d as the culprit. He’s been saying that they planted evidence on him which totally makes sense. What are the fucking chances he had literally every piece of evidence on him that they needed when he was just at a fucking McDonald’s?

    This just sounds hella suspicious. But I guess they found the scapegoat they were looking for.

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      This is just motivated reasoning. Someone thinking “Oh no, I look kinda like that guy! I’m fucked!” seems incredibly far-fetched to me.

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      If this ain’t the real guy then all that he really needs is for the real one to pop off another CEO and take credit that time.

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        I’m surprised no one has copied him yet. There are plenty of CEOs who earned it

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        No, they will declare that a copycat and they have the right guy.

        Then they go on a wild goose chase grabbing more people that fit the profile. It will quickly fall into political arrests - only the politics are the wealthy and powerful vs all of us.

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      If it’s not him, then Luigi’s wealthy family is likely going to go to bat for him. Last time I checked they already threw him under the bus, publicly.

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        You don’t have to be a criminal mastermind to not go to mcDs a week after you committed a crime, with all of the evidence needed to put you away. This is either a setup or he intended to be caught.

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      What are the fucking chances he had literally every piece of evidence on him that they needed when he was just at a fucking McDonald’s?

      Highest profile case in a century and prosecutor gets iron clad convication starter pack?

      They don’t care about justice… Who ever killed the parasite sent a message…

      The elite is returning a favour and there is a chance Luigi is being framed.

      This whole thing got psyop written all over it. We just don’t know which part which is tell tale sign of a psyop lol

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      They found a handwritten manifesto on him. It would be very easy to prove that it’s not his handwriting, if it actually were planted.

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          Handwriting analysts try to figure out if something was written by forger who carefully studied their victim. This is not that.

          You don’t need an expert to prove that the manifesto was written by someone who never knew Mangione.

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          pseudo-scientific is still a far reach, but notice how quickly some can fantasize and rationalize…

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      Mangione’s grandparents may be rich, but they’re nowhere near the level of a national company CEO rich. So you’ve got it backwards; this is like a Baron’s grandson killing a Duke.

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      People coming from privilege can still be progressive and want to enact change. I’m not sure why you’re denigrating this man and his actions based someone on the circumstances of his birth.

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        “And yes, I recognize the irony that the very system I oppose affords me the luxury of biting the hand that feeds. But that’s exactly why priviledged fucks like me should feel obliged to whine and kick and scream - until everyone has everything they need.” - Propagandhi, “Resisting Tyrannical Government”

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        Ironically, they’re the ones with the most time and education to figure out the truth. Then their own (wealthy) family will turn on them when they try for change.