“There’s no way to get there without a breakthrough,” OpenAI CEO Sam Altman said, arguing that AI will soon need even more energy.
We must disassemble the solar system and make
paperclipsAI server farmsHow about an efficiency breakthrough instead? Our brains just need a meal and can recognize a face without looking at billions of others first.
We still need to look at quite a few. And the other billions have been pre-programmed by a couple of billion years of evolution.
I mean, we can only do that because our system was trained for hundreds of thousands, millions of years into being able to recognise others of same species
But the training has already been done, no?
Almost all of our training was done without requiring burning fossil fuels. So maybe ole Sammy can put the brakes on his shit until it’s as fuel efficient as a human brain.
Food production and transport is famously a zero emission industry.
We’ve been around for hundreds of thousands of years as homosapiens. Food production and transport emissions were practically 0% until the last 100 years. So, yes, that’s right.
Man, if only there was some sort of energy source that is not only green and renewable, but also outputs a ton of energy rather efficiently…
Oh man, I clicked that link really hoping you were going to link to a Dyson Sphere.
The most efficient use of nuclear energy.
Elon will probably start taking preorders for Dyson spheres soon
“guys it’ll totally be a ready by 2030 i promise”
pocket nuke plants… have to be the stopgap between here and fusion. are there still people working on those car-sized nuke plants for a more distributed system?
Exactly. This is why the AI hype train is overblown. Stop shoving “AI” everywhere when they know it’ll cost a lot in electricity.
The real path forwards with AI will be specialized super advanced models costing hundreds per run (business use case) and/or locally run AI using NPUs, especially the latter.
Get rid of bitcoin and you solve the energy problem.
Can we get rid of AI too?
I would also like this
Put them more and more taxes. They will stop for sure.
So is AI the new Blockchain?
Unlike the Blockchain it has an actual use tho.
Yes we will build a massive nursing home and use the old people as batteries.
hey guys, theres this thing called nuclear energy. It’s pretty cool.
Thorium molten salt reactor
love a good thorium based metal cooled reactor
Massively subsidized and where do you put all the nuclear waste? Nuclear energy is dumb even without thinking about possible disasters. You are just falling for grifters who don’t want us to use renewable sources of energy. And before you say it: no, nuclear energy is not green. You would know that if you actually googled for like 5 seconds, but it’s easier to believe grifters promising “the one easy solution to solve all our problems”, right?
Massively subsidized
Nuclear energy is four times cheaper than renewables when externalities like baseline generation are imputed: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0360544222018035?via%3Dihub
where do you put all the nuclear waste?
While more dangerous, the quantity of waste generated compared to all other forms of energy generation is very small. Storage is a solved problem, but you have probably read articles about a lack of storage in the U.S. This is entirely due to politicians’ failure to agree on where to store waste. Despite the relative safety, no one wants nuclear waste stored in their “back yard.”
And before you say it: no, nuclear energy is not green.
Nuclear energy generates zero CO2. Surely we can agree that this is the most pressing consideration in terms of climate change. If your concern is the nuclear waste, then I direct you to the growing problem of disposing of solar cells and wind turbines. Newer turbine blades, for example, are 40 meters long and weigh 2.5 tons. These cannot be recycled.
No matter how you cut the data, nuclear is an order of magnitude better than almost all other forms of energy generation. If our goal is to radically improve our environmental footprint while keeping the lights on even at night when it’s not windy, then nuclear absolutely must be part of the mix.
Let’s talk about the technology instead of the dumb word “nuclear”. Thorium fission > uranium fission.
you put the nuclear waste in a hole, deep underground, after burning most of it up. Modern gen 4 designs can burn the vast majority of existing waste products down to a much more reasonable time span.
Nuclear energy is vastly more green than, coal, gas, petro, etc… Currently arguably more sustainable than massive amounts of solar and wind energy. Wind in particular has a massive waste issue, solar, it’s more complicated but there are a lot of precious metals involved and heavy refining done. It’s not a zero emissions industry either. The actual production of electricity IS net zero, unlike coal, petro, and gas, which still powers the majority of our grids. Please continue to explain to me how fossil fuels are better than funny green rock.
You’re also accusing me of knowing nothing about nuclear, which is funny, considering i have quite the autistic hyper-fixation on it. And know vastly more about it than the average person. Judging by your response, you’re probably not in the field of nuclear energy either.
Nuclear is a technology we know how to build, understand how to operate safely, and are capable of doing correctly. The only thing we need, is more nuclear plants.
The positive thing there is that it probably paces our development. If we can’t get to true AGI without way more energy than we can currently produce, then we don’t have true AGI risk right now.
There’s still risk because it might not be true or we might be able to get close enough to do damage. But slowing down AI is fine by me.
Subsidize retrofitting the entire nation with solar and invert it back into the grid
So why won’t he use the AI to discover one?
I’m sorry but as an AI language processing model I am unable to discover alternative energy sources. My training data concludes on June 21, 2021 and I am unable to understand requests that would require knowledge after that date.
All the “AI” can do is string together words actual humans have written. Those ChatGPT bots don’t think.
Just apply it to generating energy and not just storing it.
Darn
The human brain uses about 20W. Maybe AI needs to be more efficient instead?
We invented computers to do things human brains either couldn’t do, or couldn’t do fast enough.
