• SpaceScotsman@startrek.website
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    1 month ago

    looking at the junction points on that diagram only one side of the axle would change track if the switch was pulled resulting in a derailment so you could ignore the possibility of hitting the people in the middle thereby reducing this example to two parallel but unconnected trolley problems

    i choose to kill whoever calls them trolleys and not trams

    • postmateDumbass@lemmy.world
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      1 month ago

      Are the 5 people on the opposong trolley worthy of death? Will killing them outweigh losing my loved ones?

      Or is the one loved one ill save my really hot 1st cousin?

      Because with the rest of the family dead, we can live happily ever after without any annoying incest complaints.

  • aviationeast@lemmy.world
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    1 month ago

    Questions: why doesn’t the person at the switch run and get the person off the tracks? And the people on the trolley hop off or try to the sslow the trolley?

    • Vivian@lemmynsfw.com
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      1 month ago

      They are tied to their chair with the only thing they can do being flipping the lever. It is the prisoner’s trolley problem

    • actually@lemmy.world
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      1 month ago

      I think this exposes the sadism of philosophy the past few hundred years.

      Often, it’s been some rich idle folks making up murderous fantasies in their heads while looking down at my ancestors . “Oh, you don’t know page 273 of Aristotle’s rejoinder? Haha, you must be too poor”.

  • Blackout@fedia.io
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    1 month ago

    If these are tracks in the US then I just understaff the engineers and maintenance teams and the train derails before I have to make a decision, checkmate.

    • matlag@sh.itjust.works
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      1 month ago

      If these tracks are in the US, so I am. So I shoot the other guy with the gun(s) I usually carry around when I go out and then pull the lever.

  • rational_lib@lemmy.world
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    1 month ago

    Yell to the guy on the other side that I’m going to pull the lever, so he’d better not.

    Then let it go because that both maximizes global utility and poses the lowest risk of the worst case scenario.

  • HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    1 month ago

    Yell to the other lever dude that I’m not pulling the lever but fuck those beige dudes, hope they can’t tell i’m lying, run and lay down with the beige dudes, and if I’m lucky they pull their lever too and we get maximum carnage. If lever dude suspects I’m lying and insane, and thus doesn’t pull their lever, at least I won’t have to answer my loved ones’ questions.

  • Saledovil@sh.itjust.works
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    1 month ago

    Unlike the classic prisoners dilemma, this isn’t a nash equilibrium. When I know that the other person pulls their switch, I’d improve my outcome by not pulling mine. Compare to the prisoners dilemma, where not snitching when the other side snitches earns you five years in prison.

    • Wade@lemmy.world
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      1 month ago

      And unlike the original trolley problem, pulling the lever will always kill more people. I’d wager most people wouldn’t pull this lever because of this, but I agree there’s no Nash equilibrium.

  • wabafee@lemmy.world
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    1 month ago

    Do nothing that way you don’t get to jail for murder. All the pressure goes to the other guy. Sue the railway company, guy who pulled the lever and the creator. Another is find a way not to reach to that point.