So, he and his cabinet will be working 8 hours a day at least 5 days a week in DC ? Can we get that in written please ?
Maybe not in DC, but don’t underestimate how many hours most of these psychopaths actually work. They do come to work (maybe not in DC, but to some office somewhere) and work for 100 hours a week, because they place no value on anything other than work. You can fault them for many things, but billionaires are almost always true psychopaths with no concept of anything beyond working to achieve power.
Trump is a different story. He’ll say the golf course is his office, where he makes his deals.
Disagree. When you look at their schedules a lot of work hours are actually like lunch meetings or golf trips or whatever they need to do to justify networking without actual work.
I remember my last job, I would have to take days off for sick days, or half days for the Dentists. My boss however would send out emails like “Hey I am going out of town to Palm Springs, I’ll be there for 3 weeks, I will be available for phone from the golf course so I am really only taking 2 days of PTO”
You can fault them for many things, but billionaires are almost always true psychopaths with no concept of anything beyond working to achieve power.
I can definitely fault them for that
There’s no way Musk “works” 100 hours a week. How do you think he’s found all this time to spend with his new bestie Donald? By all accounts the guy spends a significant amount of his time playing video games and on Twitter. His “work” is lunch meetings and zoom calls with the board where he just spitballs a bunch of nonsense.
Their work is a lot different than the work we do. (it’s not harder)
Anyone wanna bet on how many days Trump is at Mar-a-Lago during his presidency?
Honestly, I’ll be surprised if he spends more than a few days at the White House.
Probably better for the whitehouse staff, easier to work around him and his gaggle of sub-humans, cant exactly demand folks do something as easily if he aint there.
Remember when he complained about how many days of vacation Obama took, then took more than that in half as many years?
I too want to work from the golf course.
why federal employees and not the private sector? oh right you want to fire half of the first group.
Well, also how would they mandate that for private companies?
well it is enough for Elon to suggest it. that is the kind of presidency they will be running as is obvious from Disney, IBM etc going back to advertising with Xitter
Most CEOs are the worst kind of trump bootlickers. And musk too. My last job, CEO thought musk was a genius and had a list of his “rules for business” laminated on his desk.
Ew, not to kink shame, but getting off on Musk and Business at the same time should be illegal
That’s the thing which makes it all funny, RTO in the private sector was a failure.
Sure some people went back cause they were forced to, but offering remote work for new positions is very popular now.
Companies have power over their current employees but not the new ones. So the industry is becoming more remote friendly overall as salty CEOs cling on to their smaller and smaller workforce of in office loyalists.
But there’s literally no reason to end that if staying home still gets work done
Office real estate.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/adigaskell/2023/03/05/how-remote-work-has-affected-real-estate-values/
This has had an understandable impact on office values, which fell considerably and remain below 2019. The author believes these valuations will remain below those levels for the next decade.
Simulations of office values, that took into account remote work rates, show that the value of all NYC office properties dropped by more than 40% in 2020. Predictions for 10 years after the shift to working from home suggest that office values in 2029 will remain an average of 39% lower than they were in 2019.
It doesn’t give the same feeling of power to the people in charge if they don’t see the
dronesworkers sweat.Yup. It’s all about that sense of control. That’s what they’re paying for. I saw a quote from a survey of execuitives: “I don’t know if my employees are walking their dogs for 4 hours per day when they’re working from home, but I know they can’t walk their dog when they’re in the office”.
Keep in mind, business execuitives are known to believe shit like, “when I go to the gym, that’s work, because I need to be healthy for the business”.
They believe they own us. They believe they deserve to.
How many days do you think it will take until he calls for unions to be declared illegal?
He is already arguing the NLRB is unconstitutional.
Depends how much Musks’s companies try to unionize.
“iT’s Up To ThE sTaTes!!!1!”
The asswipes, Elon and Vivek, own several empty office buildings.
Fuck you both
At least they’re open about it: The entire point (according to them) is attrition. The actual plan is to make work for these people much more hostile so they quit.
Do you think our tax bills will drop if they succeed in forcing these million employees to quit?
They said they want to run the government like a business, and it looks like that’s what they’re pursuing. Unfortunately, that just means they’ll give us the lowest quality service at the highest possible price.
They said they want to run the government like a business,
In other words: terribly. They want to run the government terribly, exactly how business runs in this country.
At the expense of everyone for the benefit of the few.
They’ll spend all of their time changing the direction of what everyone is working on, hiring and firing people, and doing re-orgs…just like a real US business!
god I fucking hate these people. Pure fucking hatred.
Then they aren’t really about efficiency, are they? When properly set up, WFH for office work is very effective and efficient.
they already said it themselves: “Requiring federal employees to come to the office five days a week would result in a wave of voluntary terminations that we welcome” so no, it was never about efficiency. at all.
Don’t you love when someone from outside talks big shit pretending to know what YOUR job is and determining its not needed?
Almost like firing people based on code written didn’t backfire last time…
Read Project 2025, the plan is to get rid of federal employees and replace them with Trump loyalists.
But think of the billions of dollars of now unused office space. That’s horrible for real estate pricing, which is where many of these fucks are invested.
And billions of barrels of oil no longer being used and going to waste from all the travel not happening and extra heat needed.
It’s not even a real estate issue sometimes. I worked in an office in an industrial facility- printing custom boxes. Everyone in an office job was on a hybrid schedule. No one’s job required them to be at the office. All conversations were by Slack, all meetings were by Zoom even if we were all in the office. They could have knocked down the office space and put in at least two more industrial printers. Considering how backed up we got around Christmas, that would have helped them.
Some of this is just old assholes who think people need to be in the office all the time so they can watch them or something. I don’t know.
At least they didn’t make me wear a tie.
My last job was highly similar. It honestly would have been more tolerable (the stress) if I’d just been able to work from home… I mean it’s not the sort of job you could pretend to do if not being monitored, it was metric-driven and triggered by customer contact… so what’s the point?
They said “we want to foster communication so having people in the office does that!” Umm my department is the only one in the company that is chained to our desk…? We can’t get up because we have to be available for contacts… and when people come by to talk to us, it’s usually a bad thing because they are interrupting actual real work. To top it off, our cube cell thing was right next to the door where everyone hung out waiting for each other to go to lunch, and because we were the only department that did external contact, they didn’t even think to shut the fuck up.
I’ll never willingly work in an office again. Not just because my disability makes commuting difficult sometimes, but because the environment is just -bad-.
Yeah, it’s miserable. I wasn’t kidding about the tie part either. Pretty much the only thing I liked about that job is that no one cared if I showed up in a T-shirt and sweatpants.
Dude, that’s been every job for 40 years.
It absolutely hasn’t from my own personal experience. Maybe it’s the industry you’re in, but I’m amazed you haven’t at least seen things like people on their lunch breaks outside or in a restaurant or whatever wearing a tie.
Efficient for whom? The rich all have millions invested in commercial real estate so if it’s not about voluntary resignations it’s about that.
Agreed 100%. I used to work a hybrid schedule and I was much more efficient when I was at home and could be both relaxed and not distracted or annoyed by coworkers.
They are about more efficiency in enriching themselves. Forcing people back into inefficient office-based work is just a tool to fire huge chunks of them while filtering for those easier exploited.
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It sounds like he would have the authority to require in-office work.
https://www.opm.gov/frequently-asked-questions/telework-faq/remote-work/
Does an employee have a right to engage in remote work?
No. Remote work is not a universal employee benefit or an employee right.
Can a manager deny a request for remote work?
Yes. Because of the policy and potential costs implications of remote work arrangements, agencies should evaluate and consider such requests (especially those submitted primarily for the convenience of the employee), on a case-by-case basis, highlighting the cost effectiveness and business benefits to the agency or organization.
Can a manager terminate an existing remote work arrangement?
Yes. An agency may determine that a remote work arrangement no longer meets the business needs of the organization or that the arrangement negatively impacts the employee’s performance. However, terminating a remote work arrangement, particularly if the employee resides outside the local commuting area of the agency worksite, may require additional considerations. If the decision is made to terminate the remote work arrangement for business reasons, there may be costs implications for the agency to consider.
That being said, my guess is that at least some federal employees probably pretty much have to work outside of the office, just because of the nature of the job – like, it may be travel-intensive. I guess they could end work-from-home stuff.
Unless Musk somehow copied himself several times, he is working remote for most of his companies each day.
ROFL.
That’s hilarious. You actually think Musk works?
He probably considered designing the cyber truck to be work.
lol 😂
He got to pick the color of the paint.
What paint?
Only on his Diablo progression…
You know he’s a swiper anyway…
He does some work.
Don’t forget the shitty sub he designed
Guessing he designed the “Hyperloop” too. Ie. The single car wide tunnel that is prone to jam after a car fails and it’s claustrophobic
Don’t forget the Hyper loop toxic sludge!
More “conceptualized” than actually designed.
Like Trump’s health plan! No wonder they are soul mates.
Sadly, tweeting is part of his job of owning Twitter.
naw. that’s him trying to cosplay as a human.
Trying, and failing… He really sucks at it
“Working”…
But he is in a position to oppress others.
“Psst, Doogees, wait until you guys see what Robbie has planned for stay-at-home.”
General strikes, anyone?
Please!
But oh no here come the liberals again to tell us how that would hurt the economy and people need to be able to buy stuff. And that this just still isn’t the right time to make a big fuss.
