Let’s see here, RFK wants to ban vaccines and promote raw milk.
There is currently a bird flu epidemic in dairy cattle from bird droppings getting into the feed.
Consuming raw milk is one of the few ways humans can become infected with bird flu.
I’m sure this will be fine and the virus won’t mutate to allow for human to human transfer, it if it does luckily it only has a 56% mortality rate compared to the Covid morality rate of ~4% during its peak.In the US, right now, the dairy farms where they let the cats drink raw milk saw half their cats die.
This is an actual thing.
You’re sort of right ( based on the article I think you read about) The cats drank bird flu contaminated raw milk which led to them dying. that being said, for that reason, raw milk is very dangerous to humans because pasteurized milk wouldn’t be as dangerous. https://arstechnica.com/science/2024/04/concerning-spread-of-bird-flu-from-cows-to-cats-suspected-in-texas/
I am more than a little confused.
According to your article
By March 20, over half of the farm’s 24 or so cats died from the flu.
That is pretty much exactly what I said
I learned about this at a CBRNE conference from people familiar with the situation.
Yeah, that’s exactly what you said. He also said raw milk is dangerous to humans because pasteurized milk is safer for humans (??). I think he’s drunk or just very dumb. Either way, just ignore him.
Sure I’ll clarify. The implication from your statement is that raw milk can kill half of cats very frequently, which is seemingly untrue. What seems to be the situation is that raw milk from cows infected with the bird flu can lead to a 50% fatality rate for cats that drink it. So if cats consume raw milk, will there be a near 50% fatality rate? Not necessarily, but it seems like that would be the case if the cows in question are infected with the bird flu (based on articles).
The reason why I want to differentiate between what you said, and the article is I can imagine someone saying: “nearly half of cats die drinking raw milk!” to which a skeptic may find online people talking about cats not dying at such a high rate from drinking raw milk, leaving out the fact that the bird flu infected cows is the issue. This can dissuade skeptics from believing the reality that raw milk increases the chances of illness from the bird flu, as well as other sicknesses.
If I’m wrong about the fact that nearly 50% of cats are dying, all the time, from raw milk, feel free to provide an article so i can educate myself.
Thanks. The context of this thread is concerning hi path AI. I should have been more clear. I am referring to dairy farms where the cows have hi path AI and the cats drink raw milk.
However it is impossible to tell if your raw milk is infected with hi path AI, so to the readers of this who are really in to drinking raw milk, I wish you luck.
On the plus side the high mortality rate should lower the spread.
True, but on the minus side, dumb people actively seeking out the infected milk would artificially increase the instances and thus the spread.
I don’t care. Do you?
They voted for this, they can deal with the consequences.
But on the plus side, dumb people actively infect themselves and get removed from the gene pool.
But on the minus side, other people don’t have the choice to completely avoid those dumb people and thus minimize their risk of infection.
If they did, covid wouldn’t have been a tenth as bad as it was.
True, but on the minus side, dumb people actively seeking out the infected milk would artificially increase the instances and thus the spread.
I’m sorry I only see benefits here.
That’s because you’re overlooking the fact that stupid people mingle with other people whether they want to or not.
If you don’t have at least a handful of truly idiotic coworkers and neighbors, you’re probably a self-employed hermit…
I have idiotic coworkers but I also work from home so my exposure in minimal.
You still interact with other people in person, and one or more of them interacts with the public.
If you learned nothing else from CoViD-19 I would hope you at least learned that you are only a couple degrees of separation from a hotbed of infection at most.
RFK is secretly a flu virus wearing a human suit.
[preface and disclaimer: I’m remembering off the top of my head something I read over 30 years ago, details may not be exactly correct]
Not sure whether you remember the chapter of Sideways Stories from Wayside School, by Louis Sachar, in which there was a student who nobody liked, who was a real asshole and wore a stinky raincoat. The kids kept trying to take off his raincoat, but underneath was another, stinkier raincoat, just layers and layers of progressively stinky raincoats, and with every raincoat removed, the kid just became a bigger asshole and his laugh louder and more high-pitched.
At the very end, he turned out to be a dead rat in a pile of stinky raincoats.
That’s what the whole administration is shaping up to be. Except we knew this was coming and allowed it to happen, so I guess that, ultimately, we are the dead rat.
You might misunderstand. The bird droppings did not accidentally get into the cow feed. Humans put it there intentionally to save money. Just search for “poultry litter” or “boiler litter” and “cattle feed” if you don’t believe me. The people who came up with this idea are actually proud of it.
looks like Lysteria is back on the menu bois also Louis Pasteur rolling in his grave rn
I think everyone is making way too much out of this. What could possibly go wr-
Oh.
Weird, I didn’t get a paywall with the first one.
I didn’t either.
It’s delicious! Give you diarrhea sometimes though.
So a win/win?
Newspapers need to just call RFK jr what he is - a child killer. Forget about this raw milk stuff and lay out the direct harm he has caused including deaths of babies from his vaccine misinformation.
They never will. Especially now that we’ve elected an authoritarian dictator who is hellbent on exacting retribution on anyone who may have slighted him.
And that includes literally just reporting objective reality. They might jail or execute one or two journalists to send a message, but they’ll fall in line.
I wanna say yay Darwin will save the day but I’m too afraid of intentional sabotage on pasteurized milk.
It’s a good day to drink oat milk.
Lol you know what would be 5d chess to get people to become vegan by Sabotaging all the food production standards to 18th century level.
Vegans in the US just have to worry about E.coli contamination
Luckily it is super easy to not drink milk at all if you are not a baby cow
experts say it’s dangerous
Then just get rid of them. Simple.
We should stop posting about Trump and his group of extraordinary morons.
The news cycle thrives on Trump, as every decision he makes manages to anger half the population, while the other half cheers him on simply to annoy liberals and progressives. This dynamic generates more clicks and ad revenue for news outlets, allowing Trump to continue making foolish decisions just to remain in the spotlight.
The only way to change this is to stop giving him space in the news.
Ignoring a problem won’t make it go away.
Well, as long as only their terminally stupid follow these ideas, well, let them.
By doing this, he is pushing more people to consume plant based milk to help the planet. It’s actually big brain of him.
bigworm brainIf by “big” you mean “inflamed”.
The term you’re looking for is holy…
hole milk?
I’ve got some… Nope! Not gonna finish that sentence! 😄
I highly doubt adults consuming cow’s milk in 2024 have reasoning skills at that level.
Sorry… you think milk makes people stupid?
No, I think only stupid people could possibly slurp down breast milk meant for babies of a completely different species.
the only thing dairy milk is “meant” for is “whatever the farmer wants”. it could meant to drink or sell or give to the calves.
Yeah, cows evolved to provide milk not for their young but for the farmers. Good job genius!
they were selectively bred to provide milk for us.
an anti-vegan commie… interesting
What a bizarre superiority complex to have just because you don’t like animal cruelty.
I don’t like animal cruelty either, but I know enough about history to know that massive civilizations were built by people who used dairy products.
But hey, let’s extend this to other groups. Like all the indigenous tribes in the world that hunt for their food.
Or how about the Maasai? They literally cut their cows and drink their blood. Those stupid backward black people, am I right?
You’re definitely superior to any of those savages from the dark continent.
We get it, you’re vegan. We can tell by the smugness and the pretentious virtue signaling.
And you’re a dumbass
Oops, I think I hit the nail on the head and it squeaked.
Someone is having trouble admitting they’re wrong.
Are they not vegan? But if it talks and walks like one…
Also, holy shit the Avengers assembled.
We get it, you copied some Reddit comment a long time ago and that’s your default retort.
Maybe I copy-pasted it from the deepest entrails of my brain. Who knows? Even I can’t tell ya.
But I did think of it, reworded it, and then edited it, so…
How is it virtue signalling when it prevents the deaths of many animals.
Breaking news: hunger is solved by people furiously typing at their keyboards.
You’re right, tho. But what are we gonna do about the smugness?
Calling others who reduce animal suffering as smug is not the own you think it is.
It’s not the message, it’s the delivery.
The truth always stings.
We get it, you like to torture animals.
Can’t say I like it having never done it. I gather you don’t recommend it?
Eating the flesh and secretions against the consent of the animals is enjoying torture.
you are stretching definitions to meaninglessness. no one likes torture.
Is it now? Aren’t they dead by then?
I’m just saying, accusing people of enjoying torture is exactly the smug attitude I’m criticizing. You can take your better-than-thou attitude and shove it.
Great you just turned more people from your cause
Silly me, I thought I’d win people over with that 🙄 What led you to believe that was my intention?
the guy responsible for the death of 83 Samoans has more health advice …
Oh god he’s gonna kill someone
Don’t worry, the worms will protect your brain…
Then why was everyone eating horse dewormer during the pandemic?
Well isn’t that the question of the decade?..
That’s the plan.
He’s already killed a lot of people.
He also likely killed some people with his anti COVID vaccine rhetoric back in 2020.
Again
By experts, do they mean anyone that paid attention to science and/or history classes in any developed country?
WTF is going on in this thread? Are milkies the new tankies?
Dumb af is what it is.
