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    21 days ago

    If a god exists the way Christians describe it, it’s a sadist and will be getting a very stern talking-to from me.

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        21 days ago

        An omnipotent being choosing to let you do wrong so that it can punish you if you do, is sick and twisted through any lens. The usual response is “God can’t be understood by mortals” but that’s a thought-terminating cliche…

        “Be free or be a slave” is a false dichotomy. It is very easy to imagine a being that has free will and a huge range of creative and artistic expression while also being limited from doing harm. No limitations could apply to an omnipotent creator, so the only reason for the status quo would be its choice. And frankly if there was intelligence behind this design they could have done a hell of a lot better.

        God is a fiction humans created to personify the apathy of nature so that we could cope better with our existence.

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          First, people doing wrong punish themselves in the act. Those acts are toxic to the soul. God barely needs to lift a finger there. Second, what would you rather have happen: people get punished for doing wrong, or not? If the first, you need free choice; if the second, then you either have slavery or no justice at all.

          There is artistic freedom, but the fact remains that there are moral rights and wrongs. Simply because I can imagine something doesn’t mean it’s possible, you only need to look at the Penrose stairs to know this. Not even God can do logically impossible things, like making square circles.

          God is the only sensible explanation of the creation of the universe and morality. Without him, nothing makes sense at all.

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            That’s the best part, you don’t need to explain the creation of the universe. It doesn’t need to make sense; we’re here regardless.

            Morality is pretty self-evident and emerges from basic empathy. That’s one of the most worrisome things about religious people IMO, believing morality is imposed rather than inherent makes them come off as wanting to do a bunch of heinous things were it not for the idea of hell.