Man I really don’t want to switch to Linux but Microsoft has ended things forever with Recall. There’s just no way to stay with microsoft long term.
I switched, it’s magic on fire with Linux.
Except for a couple if things, so I also now have a game-box running windows.
Best of two worlds IMO. It also shows how hellish windows is.
If a game won’t support Linux I won’t support it. There are thousands of games out there.
Hit me up with a Diablo 2 on linux, photoshop & 3dsmax 😭😭😭
Lutris works for Diablo 2. At least on my system.
I just installed Windows and never saw anything about recall. Use at least 3 different Windows machines a day and never seen recall. Maybe I’m just a lucky one?
Its not fully released yet and also, it will only be on a select set of PCs to start. But eventually over the years it will be on most new windows PCs.
why dont you?
Effort
Just go for it! Did it recently and the overall experience is actually getting impressed multiple times.
Big company recommends users turn functional hardware into e-waste so they can boost quarterly profits.
when microsoft feels threatened by the recycling community being noticed, they add more technical constraints. Chromebooks are the gold standard for an intentionally non recyclable machine, neck and neck with apple.
The bullshit of chromeOS to be capable of running on the shittiest hardware but having an artificial lifetime for devices is stupid. To google’s credit, they did increase that limit to 10 years, but that was only recently.
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Yes, and they’re encouraging people to throw it out. At least some users think to sell on the secondary market, but third party buyers can only get so much out of EOL Windows machines and there are only so many linux users with an interest in buying up old hardware.
I myself have a couple of used laptops, but don’t need any more hardware for a while, so it’s not like I’m able to buy up any. I fear much of it will rot in a landfill.
if they were selling the eol computers for a few dollars I would probably buy a dozen.
yup, its an “oh, you concider it garbage? oh well, more for me then!” situation.
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Can you run windows games on linux without it being resource intensive like using a vm or something?
Yes, some on steam, others on wine/bottles/lutrix/etc
Many distros nowadays have decent support forngaming accessories and a mix of Lutris and Steam/Proton have given me a near seemless experience on Linux. Smooth enough for my partner to hop ship to Bazzite for their ROG Ally.
Sometimes there are small quirks, like controllers on Bazzite just work™ but on Vanilla OS 2 my xbox controller wouldn’t be recognized by Steam or games wirelessly (wired worked) but my DS5 controller worked flawlessly (including the trackpad that I never got to work on Windows).
Most of the Steam library will work well and ProtonDB is a great resource for compatibility. Furthermore there are Decky plugins for setups like Bazzite and Chimera that embed the ProtonDB rating into the Steam game page.
Gaming in Linux on a windows VM isn’t viable for most systems. Most games run really well through proton with little to no effort. Some even run better on Linux than on windows. You just can’t play a lot of the most popular competitive online games because it flags their anti cheat.
If you are lucky, things run with minimal tinkering or out of the box.
If you are me… You won’t be able to play using virtual lans (zerotier one, xlink kai) and some games that should work out of the box just won’t start.
That’s literally the only reasons I haven’t switched OS.It definitely depends on the game and the particulars of your own system.
The answer to the question is a resounding “you’ll have to try it for yourself”. It could be flawless, it could be a nightmare, there’s a lot of variables.
Running software designed and compiled only for XYZ system is always going to incur overhead when translating or emulating to ABC system.
Game authors and publishers who only build for Windows are giving users a big middle finger and essentially saying “You must suffer through Windows in order to enjoy our product hassle-free lol”.
What worked for me (which may or may not work for others) was to wean myself away, at first with only playing games that were built natively for linux.
Then moving the line in the sand to only DRM-free native linux builds.
Then advancing to only open source games.
These days, I just don’t even play games and I find that it really frees up what kinds of things I want to do on my computers, such as daily driving exotic CPU architectures (and also I have so much more free time for actual meaningful pursuits like learning new skills).
FUCK LINUX and most open source games are shit that you have to bake yourself that still tastes like shit
Most of the time, yeah. Check ProtonDB for the particulars regarding any particular game. Games with intrusive DRM or anticheat probably won’t work though.
DuckDuckBuntu?
Mint or Fedora. KISS.
nah, fuck linux
Can you only get hard by trolling? Or are you just really seriously lonely and depressed?
I blocked them, they seem to have a serious boot licking fetish.
To bad, your missing out on the revealing dialogue I had with him IMO.
Get AIDS you rancid degenerate
AIDS? So sexual frustration is definitely a key part of your pathology. Interesting.
Tell me, how often do you think about close female relatives of yours? Are you mostly imagining hurting them, molesting them, or both?
I’m betting it’s both.
I’m ace you absolute idiot.
Exactly HOW MUCH do you love smelling your own mouth farts?
DuckDuckMint
Not sure I’d want to see that, tbh. It would only introduce more avenues for DDG to make questionable choices when they’re already on thin ice.
Ubuntu is actually falling down the ad hole lately. It’s not great, even if you leave out the technical issues that the distribution leans into these day (snaps, amongst other things)
does kubuntu have the same issues? kinda want to go for a debian or ubuntu based kde distro and kubuntu is always highly recommended.
Kubuntu is just an Ubuntu spin, so I’m gonna say yeah, probably. If you really like Deb flavored distros these days, just go with the OG.
way too difficult to set up, i don’t have a lot of free time so i need an “out of the box” distro
Debian is honestly pretty trivial to set up these days.
If you’re open to trying Fedora, I’ve been running F40KDE and Kinoite on two of my main personal laptops and I love them
Q4OS is debian with KDE and it’s made for ex-Windows users
Debian comes with KDE Plasma on their official site.
never heard of this one. definitely going to try it!
LMDE? The comfort of Mint with the stability of Debian. I picked it for my wife, who doesn’t want to mess with configs and tinkering around. I play tech support for her system when something goes wrong though.
Oh god, what did they do? Do they show ads on the gui?
In the system update dialog, you’ll see something like:
You’re not getting 53 critical security updates! Join Ubuntu Pro to keep yourself safe!
Ubuntu Pro is a subscription service.
This is seriously at the level of Norton “AntiVirus”, and it’s truly absurd and nakedly predatory.
I see they have the lobes for business.
Wait, they’re withholding security updates unless you pay? Hope they go bankrupt.
It’s free for personal use though. Canonical have turned ubuntu rather corporate, but let’s stick to the facts.
Fair point.
Counterpoint: why should I be compelled to give Canonical literally anything besides using the package manager to say “I’m using your software and I want the update”? Why do we need this additional new corporate-authorized side channel? What benefit does this yield, outside the realm of profit?
I agree.
They’re a for-profit company, ubuntu pro is supposed to entice business customers. You and I get introduced, because canonical hope that we might use ubuntu profesionally and they gain a new customer. I don’t hate it personally, but I see why people don’t like it.
Literally why I chose Debian as my first distro for daily use.
Former Ubuntu, current Debian, considering Atomic.
FUCK LINUX
DuckDuck OS
No, I’m not recommending a distro for you
Don’t worry, everyone else does
Actually to find a good distro and instructions on how to install them i recommend using an ai chatbot.
Majority of people have never created a bootable media but its easy enough ai can guide them step by step.
Do chatbots provide accurate and safe instructions for all steps? Or will it mix different instructions for different scenarios?
Ai is not that good unless it’s like hugginchat where it scraps sites for info and stuff
Eh, just look up a reputable YouTube channel and guide. Chatbots can randomly make dumb mistakes that a total newbie won’t recognize, potentially causing them a lot of headache.
And no, I’m not one of those diehard anti-AI people. My work has its own custom GPT model and I utilize it almost daily for menial tasks. But even having it generate script boilerplate and whatnot, I sometimes notice it writing stuff that won’t work and/or does it in a really verbose/weird way.
You cant ask a youtube channel what distro best suit your specific usecase.
Also realistically no one wants to sit trough a video to check out a strangers recommendation for linux.
I do get that people are worried about the incompetence of AI but this topic and procedure is so bog standard i have more faith in chatgpt doing it then a human.
If you dont believe me, try it.
Ask chatgpt/claude/gemini “How to make a bootable linux media from windows” you will have to spend a long time trying before you find it fails on something this boilerplate.
You don’t need to ask, as there are tons of well made videos giving great breakdowns of the most popular distros and the pros/cons of each while also showing demonstrations of a user session within them. To me, that’s far more informative than a broad, generalized typed paragraph. However, I will concede that I’m more a visual, hands-on learner, so this is subjective.
And I agree, creating a boot disk is very simple and straightforward. The likelihood of GPT/Gemini getting it wrong is low. Especially Gemini/Copilot, as they basically just regurgitate the top tech site articles in this context and will cite the links it used (e.g. stack exchange, Tom’s hardware, etc). But like I said above, it can still happen, so why not just look up the source material for something so simple? I doubt any time is really saved by using AI in this instance. Not to mention, if you’re more of a visual person, it’s nice to see someone else give a demonstration.
To each their own, though. Neither method is necessarily the wrong/better one.
It’s crazy how different people are. The idea of sitting through a video to do something like this is so painful to me. Like I find it useful for physical things where seeing the motion can be helpful, but I still generally find doing things that way awful. Please, please, please just give me written instructions for things. Especially if I’m going to need to refer back to it a few times (e.g. there are multiple steps that take a bit of time).
It depends on the context for me. Repairing/replacing something on like my lawnmower or car? Video all the way. A simple CLI command/process? A quick write-up is often preferred for me.
You quickly can skim text for relevance to your needs/situation, hard to do that with a video.
I dislike AI but I think you’re unfairly downvoted. I find it helpful for ensuring I’m taking care of necessary steps in a common, low-stakes procedure. It’s useful to generate sequences of terminal commands as well, though it’s important to check and understand what you’re doing.
People are right to be worried and skeptical about AI
I honestly have gotten to hate how incompetent it often is because i do regularly try to squeeze something actual intelligent from it.
But other then that its like you said. Its very good for Low stake, common, boilerplate procedures and providing clear personalized instructions for non-techies. (and forgetful nerds).
Credit where credit is due & can’t argue with results.
Or just use one of the hundreds of guides the AI was trained on.
I love how they make people choose their distro rather then “ubuntu or bust” they still used ubuntu for their guide but yk it doesn’t matter that much
Again: install Linux. Yes, there are a few edge cases left where you’re screwed and must rely on Microsoft (and even there, most of yhose can run in a VirtualBox environment) but most work you can get done under Linux. Why suffer I der Microsoft bullshit?
✋ no thanks
meanwhile you can run linux on a potato
rpi can be a good potato ; also runs freebsd
Boo hoo, I need a TPM, recent SIMD instructions, and DirectX12 support to be able to boot. Please help!
Boo hoo! 🎻
New bits of info in this support guide, which is also meant as an FAQ, include recommendations for a new PC as well as OneDrive that should help users move over easily as they upgrade to Windows 11.
The article also discusses general information related to what exactly the “end of support” for a Windows OS means and whether users can upgrade for free to Windows 11.
This seems extremely reasonable. If they were a non profit, maybe they could advertise Linux conversion, but any company selling software is going to tell users how to get the latest.
The one drive bit is just to demonstrate the ease of transferring your files
Windows resource demand is plain stupid compared to Linux, but this article targets Windows users.
Not that they’ll ever convince some to replace something “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it”
FUCK LINUX
This website is cancer, you can’t even use it on mobile, without adblocker in Firefox.
Last week, I installed Debian on a 20 year old 32-bit IBM Thinkpad and it’s going strong.
Bullshit. Absolute fucking bullshit for clout.
Fuck you and fuck the mods who are going to ban me instead of this outrageous liar.
Companies promote their recent softwares. Is this a new thing?
Not here on Lemmy where you should be able to run it on a tamagotchi for free.
You should.
“Promote” here masking what they are actually doing …
Fixed it for you:
Company renders 60%+ of computers running current software incapable of running new software due to niche hardware requirement, abruptly ends support for current version next year, and tells users to throw away their computers and buy new ones.
Oh, and they’re promoting their cloud storage option. Which may or may not have anything to do with their data harvesting? I don’t really know on that one.
“Abrupt” and “current” are pretty generous for windows 10 tbh. This has been a known deadline for several years at this point, and windows 11 has been out since 2021.
Absolutely fuck microsoft with a cactus, but this is hardly new or surprising at this point.
By “abrupt,” I mean that Windows 7 ended service updates just last year, and Windows 10 will end next year. And by “current,” I mean that Windows 11 overtook 7 as the second most used version of Windows in 2022.
We’ve known that they’re ending support for 10 next year for a few years, but that end of life timeline is very short compared to previous versions of Windows. If 10 had the same end of life timeline as 7, we’d be seeing service updates for 10 ending in 2030. And 11 may be the newest version of Windows, but it is by all means not the most used version and is most likely not the version currently being used by most people that this article is relevant to.
Headline in another universe:
“Microsoft aiming to push population into switching to Linux.”
FUCK LINUX
And aswell as mac
I feel like people concerned about the expense of a new computer aren’t generally going to look at Macs, but I’m not too familiar with their longevity/support; is it a good length of time?
My PC is getting old and I might replace it in about a year whenever I can get an OK GPU for a reasonable amount of money again.
I’ve built my own PCs since the late 90’s and this will be the first time I will not install Windows on a computer I built. Get fucked Microsoft.
I already did this 2 years ago and I still don’t miss Windows. I want my OS to just work, and that means not having big companies intentionally blocking updates and bullying consumers just so they can profit from artificially induced OEM license sales. It’s pretty wild how quickly Linux has fit the bill in recent years, and how Windows no longer does.
Only hurdle on Linux right now is the transition from X11 to Wayland. Proton doesn’t have good support for it yet so I occasionally have to load an X11 session for some games to run. I can imagine that getting worked out eventually.
Microsoft could have simply dropped official support for older machines and then literally done nothing and that would have still been better than what they did. At least then those machines would still receive security updates beyond next year, provided they could still run the latest version of Windows.
For the record, if the arbitrary CPU block is bypassed, then it’s possible to install Windows 11 23H2 on a Prescott era Pentium 4 or Athlon 64. The true requirements did change for 24H2, but even then you can install that on a 1st gen Intel or a Bulldozer era AMD system. Microsoft can go suck a dick.
Wine (which Proton is based on) has had support for Wayland since version 9.0 (about half a year old). Admittedly it’s not even enabled by default, but it works and I’ve played Path Of Exile through wine’s Wayland backend. There’s talks to ship the Wayland driver along X11, but not enabled by default yet, since there’s still some issues before they consider it on par with X11 backend. Proton might take longer, since I don’t think Valve will enable that before they add Wayland support for the Steam client.
I’ll also add the audio stack in Linux at the moment is a hot mess. I’m currently trying to resolve a problem that seems to exclusively plague the rear mic input on my system and nothing else and this shit is fucking obtuse. It’s ridiculous how many competing audio frameworks there currently are.
There are only 2 current audio frameworks, right? PipeWire (most current, best compatibility from what I’ve seen) and PulseAudio (dominant for a long time but now being replaced by PipeWire)
Sort of kind of. The actual drivers are still ALSA which both pulse and pipewire build on top of. Then there’s JACK which is older but basically tried to be Pipewire before Pipewire. Lastly there’s WirePlumber which is an automation/scripting thing built on top of Pipewire. So depending on what you’re doing you end up having to wrangle with a minimum of Pipewire and ALSA, and might also need to mess with WirePlumber and Pulse (as Pipewire exposes a Pulse API).
Because people aren’t broke enough.
You still have room on that credit card. Stop eating avocados!!!
/s
I don’t give a fuck about the /s stop spreading this ammo you ignorant shit
“and OneDrive”. Yes, it is essential to have OneDrive.
And it’s essential to have a always on network connection 24/7 if you turn it off we will delete all your data/j
