Mass data harvesting, inevitable data breach - oh look, you have genetic markers for some degenerative condition, and for some reason you’re now suddenly getting booted off your insurance and refused coverage.
Being denied medical insurance because you have a genetic predisposition for certain diseases.
New government comes into power, decides homosexuality is illegal. Digs into your post history, finds your comments supporting homosexuality, you go to prison.
Someone takes a bunch of photos of you, uses AI to create a lifelike video of you doing a lewd sex act, and then blackmails you with it.
Identity theft cases go through the roof.
Employers refuse to hire you because of an argument you had on facebook when you were 14.
You’re really REALLY craving ice cream. Predictive algorithms knew you would be craving ice cream right now. So your personal price for ice cream at every store is now 3x what it usually is.
You call in sick to work, but actually go to visit a sick friend. Your car reports your location to your boss, and you’re fired.
It really shows how far we have fallen when these examples (to which, top notch, grade A examples, mind you) sound terrifyingly real. Some even sound like they have happened in some capacity. You could write horror stories for the modern age.
Regarding the second argument: unless something really bad happens in the country, wouldnt it be impossible to put someone in prison for breaking a law that didnt exist you did the action?
I know this is prohibited in the romanian constitution and i know that the entire document was inspired by the american constitution so i just assumed that it was a common thing to have in a constitution. I have seen a lot of people(including americans) use being charged for a crime that didnt exist when you committed it as a pro-privacy argument and im not sure if other countries just forgot to put one of the most important thing in their constitution
unless something really bad happens in the country, wouldnt it be impossible to put someone in prison for breaking a law that didnt exist you did the action?
Impossible unless something really bad happens in the country
If something really bad happens in the country and they would lookin your history of comments if you supported something, couldnt they also ban privacy and charge you for that?
Honestly most of these sound like America problems, insurance, employers digging through history, cars reporting to workplaces, etc.
Companies already have profile information on me, or 95% accurate generalisations for my demographic. And no way would such price gouging tactics be allowed in my country.
The most plausible ones, such as a government targeting me - well the only other option is to live my life underground and that defeats the whole purpose of pride. So yeah I’ll gladly risk being myself publicly in spite of the risks.
Look at the end of the day, things could change 180 a new oppressive and more American like government could come in and make my life shitty. But the thing is, if they’ve already managed to come in, they’re going to make my life shitty regardless of what information I have out there.
That’s nice American, why don’t you go focus on a real issue like gun control instead of fearing an imaginary future where fascists are in power but can only find public information about a person to persecute them with?
Maybe you could focus on the lack of universal healthcare, rather than private insurance raising your prices.
Stop focusing on imaginary future scenarios and focus on the actual real problems you have already. Because they don’t exist elsewhere and it’s got nothing to do with DNA information.
I wish you the best of luck when your health insurance rejects your life saving operation because, “you were informed of your genetic predisposition to x and did not take preventative actions for n years.”
while you’re dealing with your own mortality, you’ll also be coming to terms with your own ignorance that put you in that situation.
but don’t worry, you’re young, you’ll live forever.
Have fun when your private health insurance fucks you over for whatever bullshit reason it picks and you can’t afford to fight it even though you’re in the right?
Worst that could happen is that you get denied insurance coverage or pay a bigger premium than you should. Or get caught easier if you decide to succumb to a life of crime. Or in the future they might be able to figure out if you have predisposition towards addictive behaviors and market gambling and stuff to you.
So hopefully nothing too bad, but personally I’d still feel iffy about a private corporation owning the rights to my DNA.
I’m still glad I did.
Lead me to finding my biological family.
And as far as side effects go, there’s not much they can use it for that will bother me.
This whole “meh I don’t care about privacy, take my data” attitude among younger generations is going to cause us SO MANY PROBLEMS in 20 years.
They already got our data.
Yep. Look at all the profiling data companies like Google, Meta and Reddit collect.
And what are these problems you foresee?
Mass data harvesting, inevitable data breach - oh look, you have genetic markers for some degenerative condition, and for some reason you’re now suddenly getting booted off your insurance and refused coverage.
Being denied medical insurance because you have a genetic predisposition for certain diseases.
New government comes into power, decides homosexuality is illegal. Digs into your post history, finds your comments supporting homosexuality, you go to prison.
Someone takes a bunch of photos of you, uses AI to create a lifelike video of you doing a lewd sex act, and then blackmails you with it.
Identity theft cases go through the roof.
Employers refuse to hire you because of an argument you had on facebook when you were 14.
You’re really REALLY craving ice cream. Predictive algorithms knew you would be craving ice cream right now. So your personal price for ice cream at every store is now 3x what it usually is.
You call in sick to work, but actually go to visit a sick friend. Your car reports your location to your boss, and you’re fired.
It really shows how far we have fallen when these examples (to which, top notch, grade A examples, mind you) sound terrifyingly real. Some even sound like they have happened in some capacity. You could write horror stories for the modern age.
Regarding the second argument: unless something really bad happens in the country, wouldnt it be impossible to put someone in prison for breaking a law that didnt exist you did the action?
I know this is prohibited in the romanian constitution and i know that the entire document was inspired by the american constitution so i just assumed that it was a common thing to have in a constitution. I have seen a lot of people(including americans) use being charged for a crime that didnt exist when you committed it as a pro-privacy argument and im not sure if other countries just forgot to put one of the most important thing in their constitution
yeesh, this’ll age like rotten eggs.
Illegal? Probably. Impossible? No.
Impossible unless something really bad happens in the country
If something really bad happens in the country and they would lookin your history of comments if you supported something, couldnt they also ban privacy and charge you for that?
Please correct me if im wrong
Something really bad can happen. It has happened before in many countries, and will continue to happen as long as we have humans.
Yes, privacy can be made more difficult. Certain privacy friendly services (example VPN, there are others) could be banned.
But, the less information they have on you, the better off you’ll be.
That relies on the assumption that a dictatorship would follow the rules.
Honestly most of these sound like America problems, insurance, employers digging through history, cars reporting to workplaces, etc.
Companies already have profile information on me, or 95% accurate generalisations for my demographic. And no way would such price gouging tactics be allowed in my country.
The most plausible ones, such as a government targeting me - well the only other option is to live my life underground and that defeats the whole purpose of pride. So yeah I’ll gladly risk being myself publicly in spite of the risks.
Look at the end of the day, things could change 180 a new oppressive and more American like government could come in and make my life shitty. But the thing is, if they’ve already managed to come in, they’re going to make my life shitty regardless of what information I have out there.
You sweet naive fool. “That would never happen, it’s ILLEGAL!” Grow up. They are already doing it.
That’s nice American, why don’t you go focus on a real issue like gun control instead of fearing an imaginary future where fascists are in power but can only find public information about a person to persecute them with?
Maybe you could focus on the lack of universal healthcare, rather than private insurance raising your prices.
Stop focusing on imaginary future scenarios and focus on the actual real problems you have already. Because they don’t exist elsewhere and it’s got nothing to do with DNA information.
Hahaha did I strike a nerve? Probably guilt. You know you should care more about privacy but you can’t give up the convenience.
No, I’m just tired of seeing your ill thought out comments on this site.
All it would take is one shitty government to mandate you have to have dna on file and your entire safety is gone.
Focus on having a better government, that will actually protect your citizens, not this fear mongering.
Considering the rise of fascism everywhere? What could possibility go wrong?
I wish you the best of luck when your health insurance rejects your life saving operation because, “you were informed of your genetic predisposition to x and did not take preventative actions for n years.”
while you’re dealing with your own mortality, you’ll also be coming to terms with your own ignorance that put you in that situation.
but don’t worry, you’re young, you’ll live forever.
I have universal healthcare.
Have fun when your private health insurance fucks you over for whatever bullshit reason it picks and you can’t afford to fight it even though you’re in the right?
“they didn’t come for me.”
what a damn fool.
Worst that could happen is that you get denied insurance coverage or pay a bigger premium than you should. Or get caught easier if you decide to succumb to a life of crime. Or in the future they might be able to figure out if you have predisposition towards addictive behaviors and market gambling and stuff to you.
So hopefully nothing too bad, but personally I’d still feel iffy about a private corporation owning the rights to my DNA.
Ethnic cleansing could happen.
I mean, ethnic cleansing is unlikely to even care about genetics.
We can do genomic cleansing if you wish
If you end up getting a serious illness or cancer or something like that, you might reevaluate how big of a problem this is.
I was being facetious. Obviously it’s a huge problem.
I don’t have health insurance and the world already advertises addictive shit to me and everyone else.
I’m not too worried about it.