• chitak166@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    Bernie should have won.

    Fuck everyone who voted for Hillary in the primary to guarantee a trump presidency.

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      Bernie should have won.

      Its funny, because one of the worst things about him has been his decades-long staunch support for the Israeli state.

      The big difference between Sanders and Biden is that he’s cognizant. The ship is turning on US support for Israel and Bernie sees it. But Biden’s got his head entirely lodged inside the Beltway news circuit. He’s more worried about how Claudine Gay’s firing is going to impact his poll numbers than what horrors Netanyahu plans to inflict on Gaza in order to force Palestinians into a Congolese exile.

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      It was less that and more the Democratic Party completely rigging the election, and committing election fraud, in plain sight for the primaries.

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        the Democratic Party completely rigging the election

        Its very hard to do the “Vote Blue No Matter Who” rah-rah election dance in The Most Important Race of Our Lives, when you’ve got “elections are horribly run and routinely compromised by party insiders” rolling around in the back of your head.

        I’ve been a Texas resident for my entire voting life, and the GOP nakedly fucking with the elections process is just something I can’t talk about to anyone.

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          As a Texan, I concur. I’ve talked about it.

          It either falls upon deaf ears, or it’s quietly agreed to and pushed into the background so as not to cause waves.

          When polite discourse doesn’t work, it leaves people looking for alternatives to talk.

          Sadly, being humans, violence inevitably is proposed at some point.

          I don’t condone violence, but Martin Luther King Jr. made a salient point, “A riot is the voice of the unheard.”

          The grand experiment that was America is crumbling before our eyes, and I am unsure if we as Americans can make things better without it getting worse first, and ultimately becoming something else in its place.

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            Sadly, being humans, violence inevitably is proposed at some point.

            Cornered rat engages in uncivil conduct, news at eleven.

            I don’t condone violence, but Martin Luther King Jr. made a salient point, “A riot is the voice of the unheard.”

            There’s a real argument that MLK’s movement was a failure thanks to its refusal to engage in civil defense. Getting chewed on by an attack dog on the Montgomery Bridge wins you some sympathy points on the national stage. But, in the end, the Walter Gadsdens of the 1960s were replaced by the Sandra Blands of the 2010s. Police moved the violence from the streets to the prison cells and the liberal voter base lost sight of the problem.

            What can men do against such reckless hate?

            The grand experiment that was America is crumbling before our eyes

            The illusion that we fashioned in the 70s and 80s is, perhaps, fading. The story we were all told in grade school about America being this beacon of liberty, this shining city on a hill, is wearing thin. But the America we’re left with isn’t that different from the America we started with when the Civil Rights Movement of the 1950s and 60s kicked into high gear.

            The Reagan-Era papered it over so long as a big portion of the whiter population could live fat, happy lives in the suburbs. Now the suburbs are failing and white professionals are no longer this privileged segregated class. We’re being forced to live in the same shit as everyone else, while some asshole bureaucrats in DC and on Wall Street hold up a big Line Goes Up graph and demand that we clap.

            I am unsure if we as Americans can make things better without it getting worse first

            I think, one way or another, the brutal authoritarian state we’ve constructed to oppress dissent is going to have to break. Maybe it’ll break from too many white nationalists tearing it apart from the inside. Maybe it’ll break when too many angry proletarian Millennials and Zoomers tear it apart from the outside. Maybe it’ll hold and things will continue to get worse.

            But somethings got to give if you want change.

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        10 months ago

        It’s also the way baseless smears (he owns more than one home! He once wrote something that, if taken completely out of context, is misogynist!) were amplified by neoliberals. The same neoliberals that would throw a hissy fit if someone mentioned how much Hillary “earned” from speaking to banks and hedge funds.

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    10 months ago

    Whomever is still claiming that Bernie doesn’t speak truth to power anymore hasn’t been paying attention for the last month or two. Better late than never to return to being the chief advocate for what the people wants but most of Washington doesn’t! ✊️

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      Whomever is still claiming that Bernie doesn’t speak truth to power anymore hasn’t been paying attention for the last month or two.

      Hasnt been paying attention for the last decade or 4…

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      Whomever is still claiming that Bernie doesn’t speak truth to power anymore

      Who ever claimed that? It’s essentially been the man’s entire career. If he wasn’t publicly speaking up early enough in this case, I’m sure it’s because he was bending ears behind the scenes.

      Not arguing with you, just sort of aghast that anyone (magas excepted - but we expect their opinions to be trash) would try to claim he’s not a true servant of the people.

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        Who ever claimed that?

        A SHITLOAD of people.

        It’s essentially been the man’s entire career

        True. I didn’t say they were right, just that they were saying it.

        If he wasn’t publicly speaking up early enough in this case, I’m sure it’s because he was bending ears behind the scenes.

        No doubt about it.

        Not arguing with you, just sort of aghast that anyone (magas excepted - but we expect their opinions to be trash) would try to claim he’s not a true servant of the people.

        Agreed, though I’d add Neoliberals and people who don’t have any ideals of their own but still like discussing politics for the tribalism and the mud slinging. Of course, there’s significant overlap between these groups…

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    10 months ago

    But if Biden can just ignore congressional oversight, what will this do? Can someone sue to enforce oversight?

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      He’s currently behind the mango Mussolini in the polls and, other than “at least I’m not the other guy” being a much less effective strategy for an incumbent than a challenger no matter how awful the challenger is, this is the main reason.

      Biden may be a corrupt right wing reactionary, but he’s not enough of a fool that he’s not beginning to realize the fact that he probably has to change course on this or run a very high risk of losing the last fair and open US presidential election.

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        I’m voting for Trump just to piss off biden supporters.

        If they have a problem with me doing that, they can nominate someone who represents my interests.

        I’m gonna wear a big shirt if Trump wins that says, “I voted for Trump because democrats nominated Biden.”

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          I can’t bring myself to vote for the guy that’s probably going to put me in a camp for being trans.

          Instead I’m voting for Hillary Clinton. It’s still her turn!

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    10 months ago

    And yet, he has condemned any kind of Ceasefire to happen. This is just more comfy talk by someone who has zero chance of ever even being NOMINATED for a primary spot much less actually being president. I like Bernie and DO think we shouldnt fund the Netanyahu killing machine but why dont we ever call out bullshit like this for what it is, theater.

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      10 months ago

      Being a senator is an important job. We shouldn’t judge every action by a senator as if it’s designed to get them elected as president.