• olicvb@lemmy.ca
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    2 months ago

    How so? Is it that they aren’t efficient enough to be worth the materials it’s made from?

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      2 months ago

      It’s cheaper to put a light roof on a car, buy the same area of solar cells, set them up to charge a battery, and charge the car off that battery, than it is to buy a custom, toughened, solar cell the area of the roof.

      Plus, you don’t have to haul around the extra weight at the worst location for weight in a vehicle.

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      2 months ago

      Power to weight ratio favors permanent fixed installations. A car roof is far too small to make a useful amount of energy.

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        2 months ago

        Power to weight doesn’t matter as we are talking about using a solar panel instead of a roof. There’s no added weight. The car will already have inbuilt inverters so the only real weight add is the wiring. But also, this is a postal vehicle which will have large swings in weight anyways. A couple of extra pounds doesn’t make a difference here.

        Further, this isn’t a car, which has a much smaller surface area. These things have about 10 square meters of flat roof. That’s a peak output of ~3kW. (realistically, probably closer to 1.5kW average throughout a day) which translates into 12kWh of charge in any given day. Roughly 10% of the battery capacity could be restored daily.

        For large vehicles, like delivery vehicles and busses, the math on making the roof out solar panels instead of steel changes.

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          A roof only needs to be a thin piece of sheet metal, weighing somewhere in the neighborhood of 1-2lbs per square foot

          Most solar panels are going to weigh somewhere in the neighborhood of 2-4lbs per square foot. So is likely the panel would weigh 2-4 times as much as just a plain metal roof, plus possibly a metal roof under it and/or additional framing to attach the panels to, so power to weight does absolutely come into play.

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            2 months ago

            That comes in at an additional 400lbs on a vehicle that weighs 6,670 lbs if you assume the maximal weight of the panels and the need for a metal roof anyways. That extra 6% weight just doesn’t matter. 6% losses range for 12% free charging seems like a worthy tradeoff to me. (and again, this is the maximal value).

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              2 months ago

              That extra 6% weight just doesn’t matter.

              LOL weight is incredibly important. Automakers would kill puppies for a 6% weight reduction.

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              2 months ago

              6% weight increase doesn’t necessarily mean a 6% efficiency loss, it’s not a simple linear relationship like that. Depending on the power of the motor and a few other factors that 6% weight increase could mean a huge hit to efficiency.