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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlM to United States | News & Politics@lemmy.mlEnglish · 10 months ago

Republicans vs Democrats

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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlM to United States | News & Politics@lemmy.mlEnglish · 10 months ago
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  • sOlitude24k@lemmy.myserv.one
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    Need to add Jill Stein and Chase Oliver to the mix to fully embrace how weak all our candidates are.

  • ski11erboi@lemm.ee
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    My dad gave me a choice between a pair of skates or a 10 year old used car when I turned 18 but I refused both and told him I wanted a brand new car. I ended up with a pair of skates. Getting to work was hard the next 4 years.

    /s

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOPM
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      I’m 13 and this is deep.

    • Arelin@lemmy.zip
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      So voting for genocide is as easy to shitlibs as it is to buy skates. Good to know.

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    Having a fringe lunatic as plausible opposition actually works really great in a two-party system, as the Democrats can really focus on policy for lobbyists and not so much on policy for the electorate. Just point out that the other guy would be worse.

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      It’s even worse this time, Kamala is running to the right of Trump in 2016 regarding Immigrants, so you can see in real time Trump jump to go even further right, like the cats and dogs bit.

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    Best line I’ve heard yet on the issue

  • TheFinn@discuss.tchncs.de
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    On the left is racism AND genocide. But you knew that already, you’re just happy to mislead.

    • BurgerPunk [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      The right is genocide AND rascism. But you knew that already, you’re just happy to be self-decieved

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOPM
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      in the right is racism and genocide, but in way that’s palatable to libs, you’re just happy to mislead

    • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      Are you just going to ignore the racist and xenophobic talking points by Harris about how immigrants are bringing fentanyl to kill US citizens, or Harris bringing up the factually incorrect claims about Hamas members and Palestinian men sexually assaulting Israelis, based on racist colonial tropes? Or how Harris was a top prosecutor that spent her entire career locking up minorities.

      • TheFinn@discuss.tchncs.de
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        You’re doing a fine job of ignoring Donald’s ¯\(ツ)/¯

        • Ram_The_Manparts [he/him]@hexbear.net
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          It’s not news to anyone that Trump is a massive piece of shit.

        • Rom [he/him]@hexbear.net
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          You’re doing a fine job of ignoring Harris’s.

          • TheFinn@discuss.tchncs.de
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            But I’m not?

        • BurgerPunk [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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          soypoint-1 whatabout Trump soypoint-2

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            Oh come on, it’s a false equivalence on its face. How many other options are there?

        • DoiDoi [comrade/them, he/him]@hexbear.net
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          No one claims that donald isn’t a racist, but every time kamala is correctly identified as also being a racist genocide supporter you get chucklefucks like yourself standing up to defend the integrity of a person who has a whole ass racist career behind her and is currently supporting a genocide. We don’t ignore trump, it’s just that his supporters are gleeful about the racism instead of browbeating everyone about the moral superiority of their preferred imperialist.

          • TheFinn@discuss.tchncs.de
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            You flipped it around 100%

            Good job comrade

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              Is “comrade” supposed to be an insult? People aren’t embarrassed that they’re Communists.

        • heggs_bayer [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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          All trumpanzees so obviously need to be rounded up and shot that it’s not even worth mentioning. It’s libs like you that need to be called out for trying to use faux progressivism to justify the exact same shit trumpanzees want.

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            As opposed to the very authentic progressivism of rounding up and shooting political opponents?

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              People like you are why reconstruction went the way it did

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                If you can’t reach your ideal democracy without executing dissidents, that’s not democracy.

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                  ‘Dissidents’ like they’re some powerless minority being oppressed and that their dissent isn’t over the value of human life. This is why we say that liberals are the same as fascists. “Sorry freemen, if we crack down on the whites killing you and passing black codes, it’s just not a democracy!”

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                  If you can’t stop a genocide electorally, that’s not democracy.

    • DoiDoi [comrade/them, he/him]@hexbear.net
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      Damn if she’s not racist she should stop implementing racist policies and using racist rhetoric that endangers immigrants and minorities then. I’m sure it’s all just a big misunderstanding.

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        It would be one thing if you only talked about the policies being essentially the same and having the same outcomes.

        But you brought up rhetoric, and the rhetoric is not the same, and that gives people leeway in saying you’re being misleading.

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          So being racist towards Palestinians isn’t racist? Is that what you’re saying?

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      Don’t forget rape!

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        The left candidate on the right and the right candidate on the left has me confused about what she these comments are on.

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          There’s no left candidate here though. Only two genocidal capitalists

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            Very true, for purposes of this comment, I’d mean relative to each other.

      • DoiDoi [comrade/them, he/him]@hexbear.net
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        How could we when Kamala enthusiastically repeats complete fabrications about Oct. 7th as justification for the genocide she’s currently supporting. She even said it again last night!

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        [https://thecradle.co/articles-id/26397](Inside Isreal’s torture, rape and dehumanization centers)

        Agreed, no rapist or rapist supporter can ever be trusted with power

      • BurgerPunk [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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        Blue MAGA has proven that’s not a deal breaker for them either lol

        • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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          Something something Tara Reade is a Russian agent

          • BurgerPunk [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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            Ding ding. In addition to Bill Clinton and Hillary covering up for him. And Epstein, but thats the whole ruling class

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      So you acknowledge Kamala is pro-genocide?

      • DoiDoi [comrade/them, he/him]@hexbear.net
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        yeah but not the racist kind of genocide

        • Omegamint [comrade/them, doe/deer]@hexbear.net
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          Well yeah, like the intelligent and capable kind of genocide, but surely not the racist kind

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        Not in the way that you want. But you’ve already decided so why waste my breath?

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          The Biden administration (of which she is a part) continues to send weapons to a state that is using those weapons to openly commit a genocide, and Kamala has plainly stated she has no intention of stopping the flow of those weapons. What other way am I supposed to interpret this, exactly, other than her being pro-genocide?

        • BurgerPunk [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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          What other way is there to be pro-genocide? I guess you feel there needs to be some other option since you’re a genocide supporter yourself

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            You’re trying a little too hard to discourage people from voting for Harris. That is, it’s a little too obvious.

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          “Not in the way you want”

          Oh fuck you, how put upon. You’re the real victim here, having to deal with moral scorn. Boo fucking hoo.

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      And Trump’s solution to the genocide is nuking Gaza.

      If you’re using Harris’s stance on Palestine/Israel as a reason to not vote for her, you’re an idiot.

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        You are complicit in genocide.

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          lmao

      • BurgerPunk [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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        Common genocide supporter comment

  • BurgerPunk [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    Both sides support genocide and rascism. The only difference is aestheics and cultural signifiers

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    How do you like your shit served?

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    Trump wants to build the wall and do genocide because be is racist.

    Harris wants to build the wall and do genocide because it is good for the economy.

    They are clearly not the same.

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      We are constantly making the mistake in Russia of judging the slogans and tactics of a certain party or group, of judging its general trend, by the intentions or motives that the group claims for itself. Such judgement is worthless. The road to hell—as was said long ago—is paved with good intentions.

      It is not a matter of intentions, motives or words but of the objective situation, independent of them, that determines the fate and significance of slogans, of tactics or, in general, of the trend of a given party or group.

      ~ V.I Lenin Word And Deed

      If both parties are doing the same shit, it doesn’t fucking matter why

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    Which of these candidates do you think will be more willing to have their minds changed with protests and petitions?

    Nothing is going to be easy or perfect, but we can at least choose the most likely candidate that is slightly more aligned with our desired outcome and then fight for what is needed.

    • tranarchist@lemmy.ml
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      sry, wrong sub, people here want trump to win xD

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOPM
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      Obviously neither, and anybody who claims otherwise is not engaging with reality.

    • Adlach@lemmygrad.ml
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      The right one will be twice as willing as the left one!!

      0*0 is 0, you see

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        0*2 is also 0 and maybe makes the joke better 🙃

        • Adlach@lemmygrad.ml
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          I didn’t make a silly mistake, you did.

          (thanks, lol)

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      zero equals zero

    • lorty@lemmygrad.ml
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      Neither, specially after they are elected.

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      Neither, American support for genocide has an economic basis and both candidates serve Capital.

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