For those baffled by Donald Trump’s forays into meandering discourses about electrocution, bacons sales or cannibal killers at his recent political rallies, the former US president had an explanation.
Trump assured supporters in Pennsylvania on Saturday that what might look like incoherent ramblings as he frequently departed from his scripted speech were instead indicators of his brilliance that impressed other great minds.
“I do the weave. You know what the weave is? I’ll talk about, like, nine different things that they all come back brilliantly together. And it’s like friends of mine that are like English professors, they say: ‘It’s the most brilliant thing I’ve ever seen,’” he told a bemused audience.
“But the fake news, you know what they say, ‘He rambled.’ It’s not rambling. What you do is you get off a subject to mention another little tidbit, then you get back on to the subject, and you go through this and you do it for two hours, and you don’t even mispronounce one word.”
But, increasingly, many others are not persuaded, including some of his own supporters.
Decided to find his speech on YouTube after seeing this. He was coherent for about the first 5 minutes until he started going off his prepared speech, and God did it get incoherent fast from there. I only watched about 10 minutes, couldn’t handle anymore than that.
I have seen more of the videos of his cults loyalty faltering and just a steady stream of people dipping out by halfway through (if not earlier). They are all excited on the way in but have no need to listen to Trump’s dementia word salad monologue with his favorite unrelated topics that people at his rally are just ‘meh’ about (ex. - sharks + electrocution + EV boats, windmills, whales, bacon effected by wind).
If you’d only made it til the end you could’ve heard his BEAUTIFUL WEAVE, and you too could experience English professor tears of joy
I love it. He thinks what he is doing is the same thing that John Oliver does masterfully on Last Week Tonight. What he’s actually doing I cannot for sure say, but I am fairly certain it involves extreme ADHD with maybe a side of schizophrenia and some sort of personality disorder. Oh and a large helping of rapidly worsening dementia.
Yeah, it’s mostly just brain rot. Like, let’s be real: this man has never checked his brain for worms.
The scary thing is that so many people jive with that weird insanitary mental disorder.
I feel like they just have convinced themselves somehow, or it’s Stockholm syndrome sort of.
Read The Authoritarians by Bob Altermeyer. He will explain everything going on in Trump’s follower’s minds. As well as Trumps.
You can read the whole book for free! https://theauthoritarians.org/
It’s absolutely Stockholm syndrome for their leadership, but average Republicans act more like (bad) cultists in most of the ways that matter:
Vague, nonspecific language in their modern tenets that can be interpreted any number of ways
A propensity and desire for isolation
Extreme concentration of wealth
Women viewed as breeding machines
Messianic idolatry of leaders and natural acceptance of hierarchical segregation
I have ADHD. I’ve described my train of thought as less a single train on a single track, but each car on one of 8 tracks, some of which are multitrack drifting. But I don’t sound like Trump. He sounds like he’s lost his marbles and when he bends over to pick one up, dumps out the rest of the bag.
I have adhd too, the multitrack drifting has a point! It’s all leading to something specific. Trump? He never had a point.
I also have ADHD (and know a lot of people with it) and totally agree. We may be hard to understand at times, but we have a clear line of tangents that can be explained. Trump on the other hand has no coherence or traceable train of thought. He just jumps between half-finished, completely unrelated thoughts.
schizophrenia
I’m not a psychiatrist, but I talked with one about what looks like this AFAIK, if I understood correctly, he called it lose associations, associating things all over the place disregarding their lack of relevance.
Of course just exhibiting one symptom, doesn’t mean he is schizophrenic.
I think Trump does show some ADHD like behavior too, again I’m not a professional, but I think the problem for people with ADHD is that they forget where they came from, and Trump does seem to be able to get back to that.
But for sure, this is not a normal way to present your views. Except for a small child maybe, which fits the toddler label often associated with Trumps behavior.
So my best guess is that Trump is mentally like a child for whatever reason (Dementia most likely). Obviously besides being a malignant narcissist and pathological liar.
I think Trump does show some ADHD like behavior too, again I’m not a professional, but I think the problem for people with ADHD is that they forget where they came from, and Trump does seem to be able to get back to that.
Couldn’t that just be because it typically has a teleprompter telling him what he’s supposed to be talking about?
Of course just exhibiting one symptom, doesn’t mean he is schizophrenic.
He is not. He is just a cunt, without any mental disorder apart from sociopathy and extreme narcissism.
I fucking hate these people who see Trump who is a huge malignant shitstain and immediately jump to pinning it on my disability and the medication I use to remedy it.
He’s a dipshit whose point is causing suffering of those he believes deserve it.
When he trips over his words trying to express those fucked up, poorly evidenced points to potentially well-adjusted viewers, these ableistic fucks go “golly gee, he surely must have a decent point, but his ADHD and/or addy habit caused him to forget”
the ableism is rampant in this thread holy shit.
This is absolutely not ADHD, this is his dementia and substance abuse. Having ADHD you may be distracted while trying to tell someone about something, but you’ll be excited to talk about a special interest which may lead into another, but stuff will make sense and often more in depth than most care to hear.
Trump however has no interests beyond grifting and trying to sleep with Ivanka. However he word salads about a bunch of things he knows little to nothing about. He slurs words all over the place, stops mid-word and like brain skips for a sec, and then just goes into something unrelated. It’s like his brain is constantly corrupting and causing a reboot.
I think Trump does show some ADHD like behavior too, again I’m not a professional, but I think the problem for people with ADHD is that they forget where they came from, and Trump does seem to be able to get back to that.
Could it be the teleprompter?
Just bog-standard demented sociopathic malignant narcissism.
Donald Trump definitely does not have schizophrenia. ADHD is a maybe, but Narcissistic Personality Disorder is a certainty.
And cocaine damage too.
There have been rumors that he abuses amphetamines for decades.
" you know what they say, 'He rambled. It’s not rambling.
It’s not rambling! It’s just weaving off topic for a little bit while you’re talking and then off of that topic to a third one and so on and then eventually maybe you just drop something so you can go back to the script. Rambling is something completely different, obvs.
In psychological terms we call it tangentiality or a tangential affect. Where the subject starts on one topic, and the digresses to other loosely or unrelated topics. It’s a marker for mental illness.
Or we could just call it what it is, pulling it out of your ass.
It’s a brown weave
I’m an English professor. I’m willing to overlook a lot of stuff in student papers as long as I can follow it to the basic point they’re making. Donnie’s not even at a level that understands the assignment, and he’s refusing to ask for help. I can assure you he’s not Pynchon, either — he doesn’t want the publicity.
I love that the highlight of “the weave” is that “you don’t even mispronounce one word”.
Stong Abe Simpson “I am not a communist” vibes.
So hamberder and cofveve are real words? Got it.
And it’s like friends of mine that are like English professors, they say: ‘It’s the most brilliant thing I’ve ever seen,’”
Meanwhile, back here in reality, one of his actual professors at Wharton repeatedly referred to Trump as the dumbest student he’d ever had:
according to attorney Frank DiPrima, who was close friends with professor William T. Kelley for 47 years, […] I remember the inflection of his voice when he said it: ‘Donald Trump was the dumbest goddamn student I ever had!’
e: source
Wharton had a chance to pass judgment on him and they did by granting him one of their shitty degrees.
Also, it’s weird for him to claim to be friends with the a bunch of the very same people Republicans decry as ivory tower liberal elitists. He’s weird.
Trump is delusional.
He doesn’t have a single friend
Most elderly people I know take up knitting, but you wanna weave baskets while you ramble incoherently be my guest. Here’s your soup. Don’t spill it!
Oh Donny… it’s not a weave, you got plugs. Years ago.
The ol’ dementia weave.
Sure, sure. Let’s get you to bed grandpa.
Dude thinks he’s John Mulaney, but he’s actually just the senile uncle you try and avoid at family gatherings.
There’s a horse in the hospital!
Dr. Octagon!
Fuck it. He’s dead.
Blue flowers!
I saw a bird in an airport.
Lol easy to miss throwaway line, nice
For the uninitiated:
https://youtu.be/JhkZMxgPxXU?si=AVQ0jGcZeEWQ4Gas
“I do the weave. You know what the weave is? I’ll talk about, like, nine different things that they all come back brilliantly together. And it’s like friends of mine that are like English professors, they say: ‘It’s the most brilliant thing I’ve ever seen,’” he told a bemused audience.
This is what Kevin Smith did in his university Q&As fifteen years ago. He would tell an amazing and hilarious story that would loop back around ten minutes later to land on the originating topic in a brilliant manner. Trump, not so much.
I do this when I try to explain destiny lore.
Yeah trump has never “come back brilliantly” he could be asked about childcare and he’ll start out talking about Harris and end up by talking about Covid
I can’t say I watch a lot of trump speaking (because I heard enough of that guy long ago). However, the few clips I’ve seen on trumps rambling feel like he’s trying to gain resonance with his audience (and failing). You can see pieces of this that worked for him during the the 2016 run. He’d mention some side topic, pause and watch for audience reaction, and if they responded favorable, he’d double down with a followup remark on that same topic. It many times came off looked semi-planned that that was where he was going to take the speech anyway back then even if that wasn’t the case.
These days it looks like he’s fishing for an audience response, gets none, sometimes switches back to the original topic, doesn’t get a response, fishing again, no response, fishing again, no response, repeat. Its like he blew threw his good material, and is grabbing desperately for something his audience will cheer for. Chasing a dopamine hit of people cheering for what he is saying…and not getting it. I think this is also why he’ll occasionally bring up Obama or Hillary because those (in campaigns now long past) hit his crowd very well. Where now those old reference just confuse his audience because they’re not relevant to any political discussions today, but trump isn’t saying any of this for political effect, but just to hear a crowd cheer for him so that doesn’t figure into his immediate thought process.
Trump is like Michael Scott at the shareholder meeting (on The Office US version). He loves applause so much that he goes dramatically off script and starts making wild promises that get the crowd into a frenzy. “Triple our profits! Carbon-neutral in a year!”
Trump does the same. He promises MORE healthcare for LESS taxes and the crowd loves it. He says he will win all the wars and do them QUICKLY. He gets into office and can’t deliver, so instead he lies about the “hundreds of miles of wall” he built when he didn’t, or pivots to those “evil democrats” stopping him.
It’s SUPER obvious he does just start talking and hopes for the best.
Yes, that’s what I see, that’s clearly what he’s doing. The difference is that in 2016, he was able to retain in long-term memory what didn’t work, and had the mental flexibility to try out new bits to find things that did. Now, he keeps going back to the same dry well over and over again, in every speech, which is evidence that he’s losing it. (As further evidence, I’d point out that this is consistent with the amount of time it took him to grasp that he wasn’t running against Biden anymore.)
This would be so much cooler if he was talking about the weave, as in the magic of Faerun.
See that’s why I thought it was incoherent, he was actually interacting with it where instead us mortals have to make mechanics and rules and
God I don’t even want to overthink this, this is so beyond fun anymore.
Natural born stupidity + narcissism + cocaine abuse + dementia + being surrounded by yes-men = “the weave”
