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How is calling out violence protests supporting genocide?
She’s not pushing down Palestine or pushing Israel up.
I am as confused as you are by this comment section. She’s also given statements that are anti-genocide as well. You can be opposed to multiple shitty things.
that sucks; i guess i’m not voting for kamala either.
It’s okay. You weren’t planning on voting for a Democrat anyways. Don’t kid yourself bro.
You and your two braincells can go pound sand.
for 4 days tried to trick myself into being a clueless voter like you so i can vote for kamala; but it turns out suffering at the hands of democrats and republics for 5 decades won’t let me.
Who are you voting for?
i haven’t figured that out yet.
kamala if she comes more strongly against the genocide; west or stein if she doesn’t.
Things will be certifiably worse if you don’t.
all of our presidents have been enacting almost 75% project 2025 recommendations since 1980 and they will continue to do so whether or not it’s kamala doing so.
Geez, people here really need to learn what the downvote button is for. I can’t see any reason why this statement would deserve a downvote
lemmy.world if full of shitlibs and; since they’re the biggest instance in this marxist/leninist social media network; downvotes should be expected.
Frankly it’s past time for the leftist instances to defederate from .world. They’ve made it clear what they support over there.
i like it the way it is now; we can see the them, but they can’t see us.
Big oof.
Well I agree with the last paragraph anyway…
There’s a decades-long history of Zionists conflating Anti-Zionism with Anti-Semitism, which is what Harris is tranparently doing here.
“Oppose Israel’s settler colonial conquest of Palestine? You must be anti-semitic.”
Also violent struggle against colonialism is necessary and justified, unless you want to adopt the Gandian pacifist strategy of doing your enemy’s job for them:
I support the right to peacefully protest
She wants to change our profile picture or whatever empty performative gesturing fits her agenda, doesn’t she?
Condemning a country for carrying out a genocide ≠ antisemitism. God I’m tired of doublespeak always winning.
If we’re actually taking about pro-Hamas graffiti and rhetoric, this is not an unreasonable statement. I didn’t see the protests myself, but it is possible that what she’s trying to say was that a portion of the protestors went beyond support for Palestine to actively support Hamas. If that’s the case, denouncing sympathizers of a terrorist organization, as distinct from sympathizers of Palestinians as a whole, is a valid position.
If she’s just broadly painting all anti-genocide protesters as pro-Hamas, that’s fucked. And if she’s not, she could have been a bit more explicit about it.
But the first interpretation is certainly plausible, so I won’t jump to conclusions just yet. Would definitely like to see some clarification from her.
So much better than the other guy, though. Writing in a candidate will be fun for some people, but I’m choosing to vote for someone who 1) can win and 2) won’t strip away freedoms in the name of religion.
Fucking hope this site is in no way representative of the voting population, because Jesus Christ.
That, or all the “I’m totally a progressive that suddenly learned about Gaza last week and refuse to vote for Biden because of it” astroturfing is shifting their gears to Harris.
They were looking for a new unified attack vector, and then she went and said this and they realized they could just keep doing the same old tired shit.
Reminder: if you give a single shit about Palestine or the people who live there, you will do everything you can to prevent Trump and down ballot Republicans from winning. At all costs.
If you can’t see the forest for the trees, you’re gonna find out real quick what happens in Gaza when Trump wins. Assuming you actually give a shit about those people and aren’t just using them as political pawns to try to change the sentiment regarding Kamala Harris.
I want to print this out and shove it in the face of someone I know.
Great job justifying your vote for a pro-genocide candidate! You used a lot of words and did a nice whataboutism on Trump instead of focusing on how she’s going to continue to support Israel no matter what they do just like Joe did. 🚩
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Dead on with that.
Democrats seem very eager to re-elect blue-flavored genocide. I’m very glad you feel so excited about her chances to win. I think the Palestinian children getting headshot by Israelis will be overjoyed to hear about the freedoms you will enjoy.
It’s a travesty, but after a cease fire is drafted and world news starts covering something else, we’re still stuck with whoever is president. I’ve never voted based on one single issue. There’s lots of stuff to consider.
Isn’t that going to happen regardless of who is put into office?
Correct our regime supports this genocide.
Gaza residents will be exterminated but we don’t have to feed two party system.
What does it mean to feed the system? Participate in it? Are there reasonable alternatives?
Voting for either party provide the regime legitimacy.
Voting 3p is a denying them legitimacy
Okay, so participating in the system is feeding it. I understand your point, but it feels like you’re completely dismissing the momentum our current system has. I don’t think slowing it down is a possibility right now, especially since the mechanisms in place specifically prevent extreme policy changes from one administration to the next–namely, our country’s 70+ years of hard-line support for Israel–so the next reasonable step to take is to steer it in a better direction.
Unfortunately, the majority of people are already steering either right or left. Refusing to engage or trying to push this massive machine in a less popular direction is, for now, like screaming into the void. So, I push with the others, hoping to create breathing room until we can change the way we do things and allow for better political representation in our democracy.
So, I push with the others
50% right, 50% left nothing is done.
I am breaking the tie. Clearly doing the two party circle jerk aint doing shit for anyone who works for money.
Whataboutism adds nothing to the conversation and fails to address the criticism being discussed.
oh ok sorry
There’s people in this thread saying “well then I’m gonna write in a socialist”
This isn’t whataboutism, this is actual existential threat to this country and the stability of all the countries we send our military to. Kamala Harris’ comments on the anti-genocide protest are wholly unacceptable and present the overall message as Pro-HAMAS, which it distinctly isn’t, but we do still have to think about which piece of shit benefits most from writing in someone who cannot win in a first past the post election
Most of the population doesn’t live in a swing state
The US hasn’t had democracy for at least 40 years. The owner class decide who we are allowed to elect (the money filter). The elected enact the policies that the owner class want.
Here is a tweet from Bernie from today:
Lina Khan, Chair of the FTC, pushed to get the non-compete agreement ban passed. Reid Hoffman is the Dem’s version of Peter Thiel. He paid Harris $7 million so she will fire Khan and reinstate non-compete agreements once elected.
Results from a 2014 Princeton study that took data from nearly 2000 public opinion surveys over a 20 year span and compared it to the policies that ended up becoming law.
“The preferences of the average American appear to have only a miniscule, near-zero, statistically non-significant impact upon public policy.”
https://act.represent.us/sign/problempoll-fba
Direct link to the study: https://scholar.princeton.edu/sites/default/files/mgilens/files/gilens_and_page_2014_-testing_theories_of_american_politics.doc.pdf
The corporate duopoly bought and paid for the government a long time ago. The only solution is a united front based along class lines (working class vs owner class). Everything else is a distraction.
40 years? my guy u are talking about a genocidal slave sate that was created in order to preserve slavery and commit more genocides a country where for much of its existence only white men with land could vote a country were when those blatant forms of discrimination became untenable did everything it could to ensure that only those people had any impact on politics. amerikkka was never a democracy
Fuck you, Kamala.
Daily reminder that ACAB.
Frantically working to prove she cannot think freely or objectively.
Omfg
lol there goes my support
Fooled me with missing that speech ngl
Well I’ll be Martha, the Russian shill is not going to vote a democrat for president!?
What is this world coming to?
The person, a leading presidential candidate and current vice president, skipping the meeting says a lot more than a statement put out by her staff.
No, she planned to meet with him privately. she wasn’t skipping the speech out of moral principal, she just had a prior obligation
Well I guess I’ll take yours and Jewishinsider.com’s word for it.
It says she’s a coward lol
She planned to meet with him privately. she wasn’t skipping the speech out of moral principal, she just had a prior obligation
Before? Who knows what she was going to say privately!
But now this public statement is enough to tell us exactly what she’s going to say.
Burning the flag is protected speech. Dont want to see it burned? Make the country less shitty
Another point: Don’t want it burned? Make a better looking flag
If it’s already charred looking, no one can even tell it’s been burned!
It’s true. Condemning burning the American flag is a just another form of covering your eyes or ears because you don’t like what people are saying. We should both strive to improve our country, listen to protestors, and live up to the American ideals of freedom.
The country that also is still trying to eliminate its indigenous peoples has no “ideals” to live up to.
I highly recommend reading Roxanne Dunbar-Ortiz - an indigenous people’s history of the US.
Wdym? Aren’t we living up to our nation’s ideals of genocide? /s
I’m finna burn me a flag tomorrow. Hell, they’re cheap enough I could probs burn one a day all the way up to the election
She cars more about US flagg being burned than Palestinians being killed.
🤡🤡🤡
She not like us, she not like us, she not like us
