• delirious_owl@discuss.online
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    2 months ago

    Jesus, we kicked Biden out because he was supporting Israel. Is she really going full-swing into loosing support of the people?

    We need to demand that she steps down.

    • PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S [he/him]@lemmy.sdf.org
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      we kicked Biden out because he was supporting Israel

      Nah, the wealthy donors kicked him out because they lost confidence in him, ostensibly because of his health. They don’t respond to the needs and opinions of their subjects.

      Is she really going full-swing into loosing support of the people?

      All day, because your support doesn’t matter to the rulers and their paymasters.

      We need to demand that she steps down.

      Sure, but again your demands don’t matter to the rulers and their paymasters.

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      2 months ago

      You didn’t KICK him out… He still likely would have won tbh. But Kamala is a better fit. People are excited for the first time

      And demand she steps down? You’re not asking her to step down, you’re seemingly trying to let Trump win… Because he will if she does.

      And if trump wins, the consequences will be dire… Worldwide… It will be a return to bigotry, anti-environment and he’s already given hints that he’ll try to extend his term to be permanent…

      With him on charge, we might as well give up on global warming and accept it… It’s REALLY bad.

      Based on everything I’ve seen, Kamala will likely fight for the people… Not for herself. There is so much more else going on, and despite this, I believe she’ll do an amazing job

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        Nah, I want someone who can actually beat Trump. Hilary lost because she was too far right. Harris will loose because she was too far right.

        We need someone who will actually meet the demands of the younger generation (West, Sanders, AOC, etc). Otherwise Trump will win.

        Learn from history.

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          People don’t see her as far right… because she’s really not conservative at all…

          At least imho.

          The problem with someone like AOC is that they’ll instantly brand her as too young

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      I’m going to avoid the low hanging fruit of you taking the credit for Biden for the sake of Palestine and try to appeal to your sense of reason. This war in Palestine,like so many others around the world, is NOT something you get to vote on. Isreal is a near century old institution fully backed by the U.S. government. The vested money that goes into the continuing strife in the middle East has corrupted EVERY political candidate that has come to the forefront of U.S. politics. You won’t find a candidate out there that will openly oppose Israel.

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          And he would’ve ignored them if it wasn’t for the terrible debate performance. It was really only the age thing, Kamala is going to run on the exact same policies. If you thought there was going to be a change on Gaza policy I don’t know what to tell you.

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      How did calling out violent protests disappoint you? Because she’s not supporting Israel or pushing down Palestine.

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        where was the violence? burning flags is not violence. burning effigies of genocidal monsters is not violence. tagging graffiti and spraypainting a replica of the liberty bell is not violence. there weren’t any “violent” protests.

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        Anti-zionism is not anti-semitism, no matter how much western politicians like Kamala want to conflate the two.

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        I don’t believe that you’re asking in good faith. And if you are, you’re fucking stupid. Fuck you.

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    You know what, nah. Fuck you Kamala, I’m writing in a socialist.

    Had my vote for about 3 seconds.

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      Fuck the two party system, voting for either side is feeding the regime.

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    I support the right to peacefully protest

    She wants to change our profile picture or whatever empty performative gesturing fits her agenda, doesn’t she?

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      There’s a decades-long history of Zionists conflating Anti-Zionism with Anti-Semitism, which is what Harris is tranparently doing here.

      “Oppose Israel’s settler colonial conquest of Palestine? You must be anti-semitic.”

      Also violent struggle against colonialism is necessary and justified, unless you want to adopt the Gandian pacifist strategy of doing your enemy’s job for them:

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    Standard presidential strategy (pre-trump) is to “run to the center” once the primaries are over. Yes this is disappointing, but I’ll judge her by her actions. She also didn’t attend Netanyahu’s speech, but that could just as easily have been travel logistics or it could have been a snub to Netanyahu who is courting Trump and the R’s.

    She’s not my favorite candidate, but she’s miles better than Biden, and Biden’s a light-year better than Trump.

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      Her husband is Jewish… Genocide will continue as scheduled.

      Also, they would never allow her to replace biden unless AIPAC approved. Biden would never endorse her without AIPAC approval

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        What’s being opposed is not Judaism, but Zionism; and a not insignificant number of Jews are staunch anti-Zionists that oppose this genocide.

        Also Kamala Harris’ (or any political figure’s) husband’s religion is irrelevant, what matters is her zionist policies, and her staunch decades-long support for AIPAC.

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        Bernie Sanders is Jewish and he opposes the genocide. Jews are not a monolith and Harris is not her husband

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              so we just gonna trust you that Kamala gonna do better when she won’t come out and say so?

              she already showed more care for the american flag than Palestinians with her statement few days back.

              y’all really don’t understand how tone deaf that and this campaign “maybe she won’t support genocide, please vote to find out” that DNC komissars are currently pushing.

              get a fucking clue, clowns.

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    I feel as those most of the comments here are trying to push support away from Harris I.E republican fronts/bots.

    • nowhere does she condemn Palestine, ability to protest, freedom of speech.

    • she does condem violence, a terrorist organization (hamas) and willful damage.

    • nowhere does she actually support Israeli actions.

    This is actually how comments from politicans and the police should be acting - you can protest, but it doesn’t allow willfull damage, violence or racism. America has been in a cold civil war for soo long you assume everything is an attack on your ideals.