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Y’all gonna get real sick of me, but I dont think it matters, even if she does win it.
If anything, this will supercharge the racist bigots into political violence. I hope to God they aren’t numerous enough to cause any serious damage, but Jan 6 is all the evidence we need to see just how horrible MAGAts are.
I will vote Kamala. I will start spreading the news, and get everyone I can behind her. Because it’s anyone vs a Nazi. We don’t have a choice. The Nazis must not come back to power.
Last night I was reading an article where they quoted his family, “Don’t they know he’s Irish?”. And I was like shoot I guess he’s not dropping out. 🤯
If he was gonna do this, why not announce it a year ago? Idiotic lack of political savvy. RBG levels of idiocy clinging to your post and ignoring the greater good.
I love the chaos. Everyone can now have a candidate they didn’t really ever vote for, and it’ll be appalling if THIS is the way we finally get the first woman president.
Holy shit.
This just shows that both political parties in ameria are insane. The dems just gift Trump the office. They deserve the 2nd Trump term. Just sad for the rest of the world that doesnt deserve it.
K-Hive is ready baby!
Buzz buzz buzz buzz buzz buzz buzz buzz buzz buzz buzz buzz buzz buzz buzz buzz buzz buzz buzz buzz
I kind of expected them to announce another candidate, not just that their only candidate wouldn’t be. Do they have to elect a candidate now? For how long will only one party have a candidate?
The media loves conflict, and this is going to be a juicy one. If anyhting, this sucks the wind out of Trump’s campaign.
Its still going to be “dems in disarray” non stop until they pick someone, but it mutes that chucklefuck up.
Biden has already endorsed Harris, at least on Twitter. I think that part is over. They already have to nominate someone early due to some deadlines, so the actual nomination will happen in the next week or two. It’s Harris. We should all accept it.
Goddamn this timeline sucks hairy balls (not to be confused with me cuz ain’t nobody sucking me). I didn’t like her as a VP pick and I don’t like the idea of her as President but she’s still 1000 times better than Cheetodick.
I’d love to see them nominate Bernie or AOC for VP. That’s how they’ll get the 18-24 year olds to come out to vote.
18-24 year olds didn’t show up for Bernie in 2015 or 2019. They aren’t coming this time. Their enthusiasm always get way overestimated.
Probably because that’s one of the primary demos of sites like Lemmy and reddit, plus some sub populations of Twitter
I also think millennials/gen X need to not demand Gen Z bail us out, especially since a substantial portion can’t even vote yet.
After the Schumer leak, this had to happen.
It has to be Kamala and anyone thinking otherwise is dumb.
And I don’t know if Kamala can win. I don’t know if she could do better than Joe would do. But I know she’ll do better than what would happen if Joe had a second debate like the first debate.
If nothing else, this keeps it close.
My money is still on Harris to be the final candidate. Get ready.
She’ll get absolutely demoed by Trump. I can’t wait for Dems to have to vote for a racist cop though, peak irony.
Anyone will get demoed (?) by drumpf and the GOP.
They’ll probably claim whoever gets the nomination wasn’t born in the US, is part of a satanic paedophilic cabal, etc etc etc.
So that bit doesn’t matter. Get someone who ideally inspires the swing states and hesitant voters.
Then there’ll be a violent uprising with the support of the supreme court, but again there’s nothing you can do to prevent that now.
One of the things Harris really has going for her is the fact that she would absolutely demolish Trump in a debate. She would not let him off the hook for his lies and would be able to counter his BS with reality.
Which is why Trump will never agree to debate her.
If Harris does become first name on the ticket, they better put Jesus Himself Christ as her running mate.
What makes you think she could do that? Honest question. The few speeches I heard from her she performed poorly.
She’s great on attack, she just gets tongue tied on defense sometimes. Before the primary (where she had some good attacks), she was most known for questioning people in the senate.
She was a prosecutor. Trump is a rambling tank of lies. She is smart enough to predict his bullshit and have responses in the can. I would love to see someone call Trump a liar to his face constantly for an hour.
If Harris does become first name on the ticket, they better put Jesus Himself Christ as her running mate.
GOP: Holy shit, why didn’t we think of that?
Put a woke commie pacifist on the ticket? Hah! Now, Supply-Side Jesus, that’s a candidate.
They probably did think of it but then rejected it when they found out how progressive Jesus is
You cannot be serious. She’s as bad at public speaking as Biden during the last debate. She absolutely would not stand a chance in a debate with Trump.
I don’t like Harris at all, but I’d love to see her in a debate with trump.
I wondered what the H was for
Having the first US woman president would be cool. And maybe the first woman vice-president as well, why not?
Running a woman for president is risky because of boomers, but the majority of them are voting Trump anyway. Running two women on the ticket I think would be a mistake. There are a lot of progressives that are still misogynist. As much as I’d love to see Harris/AOC I think they need to pick a man for VP.
Haven’t you just had the first woman vice-president?
Oh yeah, I forgot the US did that.
Nobody voted for Biden because Kamala was the VP. Get real man, accept reality. Yes she might be better than Biden at this point but the only way she wins this is if she beats trump in a debate and based on her speaking skills in the few speeches I heard from her she will look like a moron on stage compared to him.
…what does any of that have to do with the comment you replied to
yeah it would be cool but we’re talking about the American voter
Lol
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They kind have to… IMO… You know, the whole DEI thing.
I am all for a women president, but Harris is just a Hilary repeat … Please dont.
AOC would be amazing but I know shes "too progressive"for the boomers… What ever the fuck that means
I like AOC’s passion but a lot of people believe she’s too progressive. She’s young and can probably be more beneficial to her constituents and the party where she is for a few more years.
Harris should have a good shot, just for name recognition, her stance on abortion, and being part of the incumbent administration. Maybe she’s a more likable candidate then she was four years ago. The Democrats will have to give her a chance.
Too progressive = union busting?
Why is she Hillary repeat?
Piece of shit cop that ruined people’s lives for the crime of minding their own damn business. Not progressive, at all, and very far right as Democrats go.
cop
And just like that the concern trolls have aligned on a new attack line.
I’m voting for anyone not Trump, but she has a very public record of incarcerating non-violent offenders.
Because that is the talking point that the foreign propaganda machine has been pumping out for the last few months. You’ll notice there were no comparisons to Hillary a year ago. Now it’s all “Harris is a cop,” and “Harris is Hillary 2.0”. Ignore all of that bullshit. It’s foreign trolls doing their job and muddying the waters.
I feel like I heard that stuff during the 2020 primaries as well, but the spotlight has definitely shifted back on her so we’ll be hearing all sorts of things.
Exactly. If it were a real issue, it would be important enough to talk about all the time. When it only comes up if she is in the spotlight, it’s a disinformation campaign.
The thought is that her years as a prosecutor will come back to bite her. Plus a lot of people seem to have a problem with her personality.
I haven’t watched her enough to form an opinion but those are the takes I’ve heard most often.
A prosecutor who is anti marijuana and anti minority.
If that’s the spin republicans will take on her, they’ll alienate their own voters and push them democratic.
She’s a democrat so the average voter is totally incapable of identifying that they could be anything but pro minority and soft on crime.
It’s like pointing out that republicans keep crashing the economy, doesn’t matter, they’re branding is still ‘good for business’
I don’t know much about her, but directly from the wiki:
The rate at which Harris’s office prosecuted marijuana crimes was higher than the rate under Hallinan, but the number of defendants sentenced to state prison for such offenses was substantially lower.[76] Prosecutions for low-level marijuana offenses were rare under Harris, and her office had a policy of not pursuing jail time for marijuana possession offenses.[76]
It sounds like her position on weed is not exactly what people are painting it as. At least these comments make it seem much worse than it is according to the wiki.
Hmmm… crickets
Oof, that’s not great; got an example?
Apparently she changed her mind according to the sources responding to my comment.
Why is she Hillary repeat?
They don’t know. Watch… they won’t have specific factual reasons, only vague generalizations. Betcha.
Speaking, presentation, likability.
So well spoken female that people just don’t like for some reason?
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Chosen because of her gender before her merit. Evidence: https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/15/biden-woman-vice-president-131309
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She ran for president previously and lost terribly because people didn’t like her. She is not well spoken because clearly people didn’t resonate with her, women included.
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When she loses, and I assure you she will, it’s not because she’s a woman. It all comes down to her track record and how charismatic she is, both which are bad.
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Let’s not forget she backs Biden so things that the left is against, such as her and Biden sending bombs to Israel will hurt her terribly.
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I’m probably voting for her, but it leaves a disgusting taste in my mouth stomaching it. I’m able to accept that I won’t have a perfect candidate but most Americans aren’t these days so it’s a loss for her, yeah.
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I do not like Hillary and I do not like Harris. I don’t however agree with harris being a Hilary repeat, I think she has a way better shot than Biden did
AOC is legally too young to run still.
Dont understand how this myth still persists, since it is immediately corrected every time I’ve seen someone claim it.
She’ll be old enough by January 20th so she can run.
Actually old enough before the election. I was under that misapprehension, as well.
I see this bullshit literally every day. Read up.
Intentional misinformation spread because they fear her
Have you actually listened to her on the issues or do you just know what the media has been spouting? I was surprised to hear her very articulate and reasonable stances from her directly rather than through a progressive media filter. There’s a mismatch.
To each their own, but when I watched her in the debate years back I only remember her as one of the people I explicitly didn’t like lol. Whatever, there’s some good points in this thread and I dearly hope they’re right.
Progressives aren’t going to get a candidate we like this year. And you know what, that’s ok. I wasn’t going to vote for Genocide Joe, but I’ll do everything in my power to put in office Harris, Newsom, Whitmer, or whoever else milquetoast neolib gets the establishment nod, if only to prevent Trump from taking office.
I wasn’t going to vote for Genocide Joe
Thanks for letting us know you’d rather have an autocratic despot run this country than Biden
Get it all out. We’re on the same side now, sweet heart!
The biggest hot-topic issue this election should have been abortion (and by extension, SCOTUS). But the discussion got side-tracked by all this talk of old age. The debate just reinforced the narrative and concern with Biden. They would have hammered him over and over, with Trump bragging about how quickly he recovered from an injury.
Now, we have:
- A sittingVP with actual Whitehouse experience, who can take credit for all the economic policies under Biden. Also, a former Senator.
- A prosecutor and former Attorney General vs a convicted felon.
- The age issue disappears (in fact, it now becomes a liability against Trump).
- A woman vs the guy who bragged about killing Roe v. Wade.
- Future of SCOTUS.
If she just keeps talking about those topics non-stop, she’ll do fine.
The only thing better would have been if Biden had resigned to let people see her in the actual role, but this works. She picks a mid-westerner as VP who can stand up to Vance and it’s a whole new ballgame.
I’m actually stoked about this race again.
I hope the Dems know what they’re doing.
Nobody knows what they’re doing. This is all unprecedented stuff.
Realistically… from a foreigner . They shouldn’t …really… Have to…
Anybody that votes for trump wants a king. Plain and simple.
Provided America has a functional education system, the Dems should easily be able to coast against someone that actively tried to retain power in the ways that he did. You can listen to the cals yaknow.
Make the democrats mistakes less existential by introducing competition into the electoral process with Ranked Choice voting.
More political parties, more chances to beat trump, more people voting.
Morgan Freeman: “They do not”
They do. They’re doing what the people asked.
Biden wasn’t doing what needed to be done to come back from the debate. This wasn’t a move out of desperation. It was out of necessity.
I hope they have a plan too.
He’s 81 and has COVID
He likely doesn’t have Covid
He likely does have COVID
According to…?
The internet.
I’m on the internet.
Everyone needs to join a church before the Nazi MAGA army starts hunting atheists
Definitely should have happened 6 months ago, but better late than never - something about planting a tree.
This also robs the GOP of the hE’s ToO oLd argument, which is one of their only effective attacks.
I’m nervous. Biden was a flawed candidate, but he already beat Trump once and had the incumbent advantage. Harris was a very unpopular candidate in 2020, and it’s unknown if any other candidate will do better against Trump. But since Biden chose to do this, there’s no doubt he made the right decision for him.
