Looks like someone took some shots at prez candidate Donald Trump at a rally in PA. From the videos I’ve seen, it looks like he did get grazed.
Looks like someone took some shots at prez candidate Donald Trump at a rally in PA. From the videos I’ve seen, it looks like he did get grazed.
Half the comments here are proving that people on the right aren’t the only ones who can indulge in stupid conspiracy theories.
It’s depressing as fuck.
What’s worse is that the MAGA crowd has Trump and some other figures intentionally playing conspiracies up and adding weight to them. The guys on the left don’t even have the excuse of Biden and company bullshitting.
On this topic as a whole, it’s also proving people on the left are in favor of gun violence…
Remind me how the Third Reich ended again, liberal?
How did the US become a country again?
How was North Koreas invasion of the south stopped?
Damn that’s crazy how every time fascism has been defeated in human history, it’s been through one singular method.
Guess I’m just gonna go vote.
Not every time at all. Franco, Salazar, and Pinochet were not defeated via guns.
And how! I love the irony tho.
Not like it really needs proving. When Marx writes about “revolution,” he means bloody, violent revolution.
Anyone advocating revolution needs guns to back it up or else they’re just full of hot air.
Antifascists have a long history of shooting Natzi.
Violence is necessary for revolutions to happen, the only way the far right stops its bullshit is by kicking their ass, see Punk scene with neo Nazis.
How do you know their political leanings?
That’s blue maga for ya.
“blue maga” implies that there is a cult of personality around Biden like there is around Trump. That is simple not what anyone opposed to Trump believes in or rallies around.
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You mean the primarys for this election that Biden is the sitting president? Or primarys four years ago when he was the guy pushed immediately to the top before the primarys?
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So… When he was the top runner before the primarys.
What are you trying to say?
BlUe MaGa!!1!
Based on what? Neither of you know who they support or which way they lean.
Just quid pro quo.
I was thinking the same thing
What I find sad is that either option is equally plausible. That’s how low we have sunk.
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I don’t disagree with you, but you completely missed my point.
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0.01% chance based on what?
I think being unsure either way makes perfect sense. You gotta admit it doesn’t really line up with Trump’s character to be posing for the cameras if he’s actually being shot at. Though tou’re not wrong to say, that that isn’t proof of anything. It’s subjective feeling.
But, I think saying it’s entirely unlikely this was orchestrated isn’t right either.
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I’m not claiming anything. It’s just really, really early after the event.
My choice of words was not ideal, and I apologize for that.
I’m just saying being unsure of what happened isn’t crazy so soon after the event.
You’re out here saying what is and is not likely based on your own feelings about what you feel is true.
It’s simply too early to say anything definitive about what level of conspiracy existed (in the traditional sense, of more than one person, conspiring).
I am not saying this was staged. I’m saying you’re jumping the gun, to say so confidently it wasn’t.
Very convenient.
I wonder what the chances are that Russia did this.
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Care to clarify? I can’t make sense of your comment.
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Ah, got it. You just misinterpreted my comment.
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You:
This is false. Here’s what I said, “people on the right aren’t the only ones”
Like I said, you misinterpreted.
Q-Anon level thinking that somehow Trump is a mastermind of this. The dude who can’t hide stolen files properly, can’t lie on his taxes properly, and loses money on a casino, somehow has the ability to rig a false flag assassination attempt.
Are NeoLibs that so far into the Kool-Aid that Dipshit Trump is also a grandmaster 5D chess player of this, while not being able to string words together? It’s not like he’s even been a good actor.
A “false flag assassination attempt” is not as hard to rig if you know it won’t be properly investigated.
It doesn’t take a mastermind. Dictators faking assassination attempts to garner support isn’t new.
“All right ear me big sniper guy, it’s going to be an attempted assassination, the biggest ever, you are going to shoot me close, like danger close but don’t worry I’m the best president, really I’m the best and you are the best sniper, the best sniper in the whole country. So you shoot me near the ear, near enough that blood comes out, I know scary stuff, but we are tough guys, the toughest so you do it and I resist and together we make the best attempted staged assassination ever”
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Your gullibility making you believe a conspiracy theory over your own eyes.
Yeah there are some real idiots in this thread. Very depressing
It’s representative of the current state of this country honestly.
I’d imagine that there are a lot of rather confused individuals in a number of countries, and when tempers run high around politics…shrugs
I don’t know if the US would be particularly bad. Would need to have some kind of way to quantify that.
Trump isn’t even the mastermind of his own bowel movements. If this was staged it was all planned by his Russian handlers.
I am glad Russia has no experience whatsoever with this type of operations
Roger Stone would be my guess.
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It’s fun to indulge in, and it doesn’t change the fact that shit is about to hit the fan, regardless of whether the shooter was someone with a legitimate desire or a paid gunman. Trump was just given and used a golden ticket to both rally republicans to vote for him, and to incite his diehard followers into another insurrection.
Sure, but I don’t think being an ironic conspiracy theorist on the levels of Q-Anon is going to make anyone seem better.
Trump was already going to do that. Trump would do it if someone sneezed on him. They already considered him a martyr. They already wanted/have an Enabling Act. The only thing this changes is a bit less blood in him, and 3 people died. Trump already had higher polling numbers.
Fascism is here. Get ready.
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I admit I saw a red fluid on his face.
It won’t make anyone here seem better, I agree. But at the same time, it’s not like we’re going to have the opportunity to joke around like this after the inevitable happens.
Enjoy life while you still can, you know?
But why would you even think that people on the left are different from people on the right? This is why I’m not into politics myself. Because it all builds on some fake idea that one side is right about everything, even good people, while the other is wrong about everything, and probably are bad people as well.
In reality, both sides are very similar and have much more incommon with eachother than they have with the politicians they are trying to support.
My understanding is that on average there are differences in psychology between conservative and progressive people. For example, conservative people tend to be okay with unfairness, since from their point of view society is a hierarchy and of course the people at the top are better off.
Anyway, given that conservative and progressive people have a different vision of an ideal society and also different ideas about how to get there, it is reasonable to expect them at act differently. We know that most politically motivated violence is from the right.
I’m sure conservatives have the same views on the other side, something negative, based in fear. If you think about it, all of politics is fear of change in a direction we don’t want, but others do.
In a family when this happens, family members talk about it and try to understand eachother. At least in a good family. In a dysfunctional one, family members go to war with eachother. And that’s what I see in politics. There is no feeling of being humans on a ball together at all.