Republican Speaker Mike Johnson predicted Monday the federal government shutdown may become the longest in history, saying he “won’t negotiate” with Democrats until they hit pause on their health care demands and reopen.
Johnson says he will keep the government shutdown indefinitely.
This is what happens when you put anti-government people in government.
Damn they will whatever it takes to stop the release of the Epstein files.
We dont negotiate with terrorists, Mikey.
I honestly don’t understand how
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Americans are this god damn stupid to realize Republicans are literally saying “fuck you, we won’t back down from you dying in the streets.”
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How bad the Democrats are that they’re failing to capitalize on that message.
because republicans and establishment-dems are still on the same side, that of Big Business (and AIPAC).
these establishment politicians still believe things can “return to normal” (read, unsustainable ratfucking) after trump croaks, which…won’t happen, but as long as they still think it’s possibility they’ll why get in the way of the money printer?
The survey results that I’m seeing show that Americans do understand what’s happening and that Republicans are shooting themselves in the face. But there’s not an election happening tomorrow so it takes time.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/whos-blame-shutdown-all-above-reutersipsos-poll-finds-2025-10-09/
63%/67% blame Trump/Republicans respectively.
63% also blamed Democrats for the shutdown.
63% also blamed Democrats… That’s just a failure of America and a indictment of Democratic leadership ineptitude in my opinion.
And they have short attention spans so it won’t even matter when it gets to an election
Ah yes the short attention spans conundrum. They’d almost need the administration in power to do/say absolutely crazy shit every single day…
That’s where the fish gallop comes in. There’s such a firehose of fucked up fuckery that no well-adjusted mind can keep track of it all!
Republicans are shooting themselves in the face
Literally? At least that’d be doing something worthwhile for the American people.
Well, you see, Republicans are such a terrible party that they make Democrats look like they’re worth voting for.
The Democrats love giving the Republicans rope to hang themselves, but this time they might have given them so much the rope is touching the floor.
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I believe the only way we’ll get a functioning (or a shell of one) is that Johnson gets kicked out. Wouldn’t it be ironic if MTG took speaker job.
Wouldn’t it be ironic if MTG took speaker job.
Don’t give them any ideas!
I can’t believe I’m saying this but: she’d be an improvement.
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Seems to me that back in the spring, they said open the government and we’ll talk, and then they didn’t talk. Fool me once …
Don’t get fooled again.
sry the jif itself won’t upload
Chuck Schumer “well maybe it’ll work out this time. Let’s take them at their word.”
“I won’t negotiate with you until you give up on all of the things you want.”
This translates to “I won’t negotiate with you.” Because the “until” phrase would be the elimination of anything to be negotiated.
They’re just insolent children stamping their feet.
I’m pretty sure THE ONE JOB we put a politician in that position for is to NEGOTIATE with other representatives, for the express purpose of finding the best solutions for ALL of the countrie’s citizens. DO YOUR EFFING JOB YOU WEIRD JOHNSON!
Republicans have been running the “don’t negotiate” line since Gingrich 's two Santa’s clause strategy was put into play.
Orange Daddy told him he couldn’t
Translation: Mike Johnson doesn’t care if you have healthcare or not, Americans. And he’s willing to deprive millions of their paychecks to prove it.
Let him try. The soldiers know who’s withholding their pay, and you never not pay your soldiers. Should honestly be rule 1 of history, even before don’t print money to pay for debt and don’t invade Russia in winter
As a Canadian who has almost limitless free access to healthcare, I’ve never understood America’s decision to withhold the same from millions of people.
Instead the US spends $1 trillion on war machines.
Make it make sense.
it’s worse than that, we spend more federal $ on our non-existent healthcare than than spend on the war machine.
our entire federal government has served to line the pockets of big business for many decades at this point
America is a nation filled with vile evil people.
I don’t think I’d say it’s filled with them. Surely there are only a small portion that actually wanted this to happen.
Not so small.
Because the American theocracy is built around their most holy of books, “Atlas Shrugged.” Greed and selfishness are noble pursuits, and whoever is hurt by them deserves it because they weren’t strong enough to fight back and win.
I mean, yes but also extremely no. Rand’s influence ends about three feet away from those books. The Chicago School of Economics, The Cato Institute, and The Heritage Foundation are the real powerhouses here.
That, plus good ol’ racism and the oil crisis of the 70s are why we missed the bus on robust social safety nets. (Boomers were making actual societal change, but then the oil crisis turned a majority of them into conservatives)
The oil crisis will go down in history as the beginning of the end, where the story of the Late American Republic starts.
All that is left to decide is what chapter follows
It doesn’t make any sense, it’s so fucking stupid. I can’t stand paying a middleman every month who is not a doctor and can just deny me coverage that I need if I go to the wrong hospital or if they don’t agree with something my doctor recommended. All because a significant portion of the populace is too fucking stupid to understand how this is an extremely inefficient system at best and they reduce any argument in favor of changing it to “communism!” which is a word they heard is bad generations ago and never bothered spending two seconds to look up the actual definition ever since.
They’ll also just say “muh waiting lists” like that’s somehow a worse problem than not getting care at all
Yeah, it’s not like we don’t have them too; if I want to make an appointment to see my primary care physician, it’s about a month out; cardiologist is about a month and a half. I’m failing to see the downside to socialized medicine that makes it so much worse than our current system.
It doesn’t make any sense
a significant portion of the populace is too fucking stupid to understand
You just answered your own question. Welcome to America. It isn’t getting smarter anytime soon.
We pay more for healthcare than you do, per capita. It’s not that we don’t have free healthcare - it’s A) that the oligarchs have figured out how to build a money siphoning machine out of our healthcare system and B) that they can use it to enforce social classes.
Also, we pay more tax money per patient than any other country in the world on top of our monthly premiums, deductibles, and co-pays.
It’s not that we don’t have free healthcare
No, it’s exactly that. We do not have free health care. I have what is considered “good” insurance (which I pay a monthly premium for), and I always have to pay some fee or copay whenever I see a doctor for anything other than a well visit. I pay hundreds of dollars a year out of pocket for glasses and contacts, devices I require to safely do things like operate a car, even though that stuff is supposedly “covered” by insurance. Heaven forbid I need any dental work beyond a cleaning, as that would cost me probably hundreds as well. So no. No, we don’t have free healthcare, and it’s honestly baffling that any American that isn’t an oligarch would suggest that we do.
It doesn’t make sense but as long as they are given another person to look down on the Americans seem happy.
Make it make sense.
Propaganda + Human Stupidity
We aren’t as evolved as people would like to think.
Because the hierarchy of society that most politicians support demands employees who are terrified of leaving their exploitative jobs. Money is a powerful motivator, but even more powerful is the health of you and your family.
And at the same time, a very sick citizen does not generate economic benefits to them, so there’s no reason to make serious care available and/or not crushingly expensive. Better to drain as much as possible from them before the dead weight succumbs to those pressures than direct any revenue that could given back to “job creators” as tax breaks of subsidies.
It’s also why political and media personalities will brag about how quickly the county recovered from COVID. It wasn’t an economic miracle, it was sacrificing lives at the altar of capitalism. It went hand in hand with our absurdly disproportionate number of deaths.
Why we don’t storm their houses and string them up from lamp posts (or, I suppose, vote them out), I don’t know.
Republicans didn’t negotiate before passing the bill either, which is why we are where we are.
Well, if he won’t negotiate, why does he expect the democrats to rubberstamp it?
Because party Democrats are fucking cowards who fold the moment they face a moment of resistance. If I were the Republican party, I would have considered it to be a safe gambit.
It’s good that the Democrats are refusing to give in now, but they really could have started doing that up to a year ago.
Yeah, Chuck Schumer basically gave the Republicans everything they wanted earlier this year on the first CR. He’ll be willing to cave again once he gets fed up with all the calls from his corporate donors
He thinks they can force their hand by saying it’s the Democrats that are preventing the military from getting paid.
So, basically, if Mike Johnson was your dad and (he spent all day after tracking your internet habits) you were abducted, you’d be a goner and he would go around blaming the abductors for refusing to release you for free.
That aside is so distracting, but most excellent.
Ratchet effect has worked out great for them thus far
Because that is historically what they have done. Republicans know that can take advantage of Democrats “weakness” of being able to compromise. The illegal firing of furloughed workers is metaphorically the Republican terrorists executing hostages until their demands are met. They don’t care about the damage they are doing, but they know their opponents do. They have also historically used the tactic successfully.
They expect it has worked in the past. They will keep executing their hostages and they will keep blaming their own willful destruction on those who won’t just give them everything they want. What they are too stupid to realize is that many of their hostages are their own people, and the only thing that makes a rightist reconsider their sick ideology is when it comes back to bite them personally.
The dems are happy to concede after making a show of a false struggle since it lets them off the hook from delivering the campaign-only promises their donors don’t want them to follow through on
Of course, the dems always need to reach across the aisle, but it doesn’t apply to the gop lol
all they are asking is for a clean bill so that they have more time. you know. like what the dems gave them in spring. /s I mean its true so not exactly /s but the /s is for anyone who does not really understand the background but /s in that yes im making fun of the republicans and their absolute rediculous demands. They expect that they can do nothing and that the other side should bend over backwards to fix the problems they make.
he “won’t negotiate” with Democrats until they hit pause on their health care demands
FIFH: I won’t negotiate until you stop trying to negotiate.
Well Reps control the House, Senate and Executive branches, I read this as he will not negotiate inside his own party
