• Zak@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    Are you surprised by teenage boys making fake nudes of girls in their school? I’m surprised by how few of these cases have made the news.

    I don’t think there’s any way to put this cat back in the bag. We should probably work on teaching boys not to be horrible.

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      Teenagers are literally retarded. Like their reasoning centers are not developed and they physically cannot think. There’s no way to teach that

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        No, they’re not fully developed, but they distinguish actions morally speaking (even older children do) and they can choose to do better.

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        We do eventually grow up at least

        … into horny men

        … but hopefully with a little more empathy and propriety.

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        Being horny is one thing, sharing this stuff another. If whoever did the fake would’ve kept it to themselves, then nobody would’ve even known. The headline still is ass and typical “AI” hysteria though.

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          They shouldn’t have generated it in the first place. How would you feel if people did that to your mom, or you, or your sisters, or your kids?

          I don’t think just keeping it to yourself is enough.

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            Man can you imagine? Someone cutting out my moms head and glues it on a porstar? I would kill myself.

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            I don’t really care. People can and will fantasize in the same way about other people too and I’m not going to play thought police.

      • Zak@lemmy.world
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        Having been a teenage boy myself, I wouldn’t dream of trying.

        But I knew it wasn’t OK to climb a tree with binoculars to try to catch a glimpse of the girl next door changing clothes, and I knew it wasn’t OK to touch people without their consent. I knew people who did things like that were peeping toms and rapists. I believed peeping toms and rapists would be socially ostracized and legally punished more harshly than they often are in reality.

        Making and sharing deepfakes of real people without their consent belongs on the same spectrum.

    • Pennomi@lemmy.world
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      There are always two paths to take - take away all of humanity’s tools or aggressively police people who abuse them. No matter the tool (AI, computers, guns, cars, hydraulic presses) there will be somebody who abuses it, and for society to function properly we have to do something about the delinquent minority of society.

      • afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world
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        Guns do not belong in the list. Guns are weapons, not tools. Don’t bother posting some random edge case that accounts for approximately 0.000001% of use. This is a basic category error.

        Governments should make rules banning and/or regulating weapons.

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          Weapons are tools, by strict definition, and there are legitimate uses for them. Besides, my point was that they should be regulated. In fact, because they are less generally useful than constructive tools, they should be regulated far MORE strictly.

          • afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world
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            4 months ago

            Weapons are tools,

            Prove it. Prove that the majority of people think of a gun in the same way as they do a screwdriver

            by strict definition,

            Assertion without evidence

            and there are legitimate uses for them.

            I see we didn’t read what I wrote, only the first sentence of what I wrote.

            Besides, my point was that they should be regulated. In fact, because they are less generally useful than constructive tools, they should be regulated far MORE strictly.

            By generally you mean not even close to them yes.

            • Pennomi@lemmy.world
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              It seems we can’t have a reasonable discourse here because you are ignoring basic definitions. Have a lovely day!

              • afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world
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                4 months ago

                No you are pulling a libertarian. You defined a word that is used a particular way to mean what you want it to mean then declare victory.

                You are not arguing step-by-step, you are bypassing.

                • Ookami38@sh.itjust.works
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                  Mate, he’s right. First definition. “A handheld device used to aid in performing a task.” Any gun falls into that definition. But sure, get hung up on asking them to define every word in their statements, that’s a good way to not have to actually engage with the concept.

                  • afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world
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                    4 months ago

                    Task =\= murder

                    When I hire a task rabbit is that the same as hiring a hitman? When I open task manager should I see process “kill my cheating ex”?

                    But sure, get hung up on asking them to define every word in their statements, t

                    Did I do that? Yes or no question.

                    that’s a good way to not have to actually engage with the concept.

                    I am fine with engaging with the topic, I did so. He/she clung to definitions while I was blunt and pointed out that a gun is not a screwdriver and should be banned or regulated just like we do with any weapon.

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        4 months ago

        We could also do a better job of teaching people from childhood not to be assholes.

      • The Pantser@lemmy.world
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        No matter the tool (AI, computers, guns, cars, hydraulic presses) there will be somebody who abuses it,

        Hydraulic press channel guy offended you somehow? I’m missing something here.