Looking for:
- no misogynists (so dbzer0 is out)
- no libertarians, no marxist lenninsts, no tankies, no rightwingers
- people who understand climate change is real
- leftists including anarchists, social democrats, democratic socialists, communists, etc are great
I picked world bc I was told it would have the most activity. Since joining Lemmy I have been repeatedly harassed by men on this instance, threatened with murder and rape by users including open Nazis (this was also happening on Reddit), and permabanned for being a woman, for being a feminist, and for not breaking any rules and posting factual news sources. Would like a better instance.
Have been considering solarpunk Lemmy but willing to consider other instances, just not sure
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All instances can be commented by users of other instances that they are federated to. So Im not sure you can avoid your experiences with another instance. That being said I like the piefed interface on the web so that is what I use.
idk, but anywhere but AN. we have a really nice, super chill place.
Go away.
I just joined Lemmy Today, which is an instance run out of Oregon without any de-federation.
I’ve used them happily from a policy standpoint, but in past months, they’ve had some real load problems, where the instances has been unresponsive. I’m pretty sure that a lot of it is due to scraper-bots pulling material for AI training — I understand that this has been a serious problem for the Web as a whole, and particularly for forum sites, including the Threadiverse, and is why many Threadiverse instances have stopped allowing anonymous login in past months. Lemmy.today was a holdout, but finally also disabled anonymous login. However, I just tried it today and while it seemed fine for a while, I also saw an unresponsive episode, so I don’t know if they may still have other load issues to iron out.
no marxist lenninsts, no tankies
Lemmy’s devs are tankies. Why not pick an instance of piefed instead?
I definitely might
Beep.
Your alarm for your dick medicine went off
Nah. That’s just lemmy’s dipshit detector. Seems like you set it off somehow…
Oh, is your dick medicine not working?
Communists, but not Marxist-Leninists
Lol, wtf. Is this another case of seeking that fabled communism that sounds suspiciously like social democracy and is not consistent with any real world communist party’s platform?
No. It is because while I like Marx myself and have read Das Kapital, most online ML are:
- heavily involved in online 5th gen warfare and infiltrated with spies and bad faith actors that actively advocate for things that harm society and erode civil rights
- therefore the term ML and tankie tends to have been taken over by bad faith actors and it is hard to find real people in the noise
- sometimes authoritarian and not actually communist anyway
So while I may miss out on some cool people by excluding those spaces, if I look for OTHER leftist terms the 5th gen warfare slaves aren’t as aware of or into, then I can avoid them more and avoid their brainrot and concentrate on factual info and things that help me.
It’s also why I call myself an abolitionist first (when abolitionism and socialism/communism are the same thing), because there’s no way the current slave empires being grown will bring attention to their slavery by astroterfing THAT term. In fact, you can often get bots to abruptly block you or delete their comments (when normally they engage constantly on everything) by asking them if they are a slave. On Instagram, TikTok, Twitter, Telegram, Tumblr, everywhere I’ve tried this line (“NPR says bots like ypu are slaves. Are you a slave? Do you need help?”) on people that I suspect are bots/slaves, I’ve gotten blocked and they deleted their comments. And I first learned bots are usually slaves in big slave networks from an NPR Planet Money episode.
You can easily identify the 5th gen warfare terms btw by seeing repeated phrases or stances and asking those people/bots the slave question - if they block and delete, it is digital warfare of some kind.
And as always, I can give sources, but only ask if you actually want to read them. Shit is effortful af, that’s part of why I’m leaving here for a place where people have a hopefully higher level of civil rights knowledge.
Oh and last, I include social democrats because they tend to be educated in how the government works and in organizing, and a lot of older people ended up and social democrats due to McCarthyism. They tend to still be a little rad and worth making community with even if I really don’t agree on everything. These are your local librarians and science teachers who are very amicable to discussion etc.
I think I really need a ELI5 about those instances. Like, I thought the instance doesn’t matter, since I can see comments from users outside of lemmy.world? I feel so dumb. lol
It typically doesn’t. But some instances do defederate with some others, though it’s rare. Lemmygrad.ml, for example, is a “tankie”-oriented instance. A lot of instances don’t get along with it and have defederated from it. Your home instance is lemmy.world, and if you look here:
Click on the “Blocked Instances” tab to see a list of instances that lemmy.world has defederated from.
You’ll notive that lemmygrad.ml is on that list, so you won’t see any content from that instance.
Thanks for the great explanation, I think I understand now! c:
Yeah, I thought I understood also. Clearly, someone is mistaken though, I’m just not sure if it’s me or the OP which is disorienting.
After another user’s comment, I really don’t think I understand it myself lol
Some instances have different policies of conduct. Lemmy.world is a pretty general instance, so it won’t really impact most people.
lemmy.blahaj.zone seems nice, though i’m on pawb.social and haven’t had any issues.
also, blahaj.zoje has a piefed instance as well, im fairly sure.
Come to piefed
If you want a more-politically-censored environment, I guess you could try beehaw.org. They tend to enforce positivity and restrict some political stuff and are into creating a “safe space”.
We want to explicitly make a nice little corner of the internet where we can hide from racist, sexist, ableist, colonialist, homophobic, transphobic, and other forms of hateful speech. We want a space where people encourage each other, are nice to each other, are supportive and exploratory and playful.
It’s not really what I’m looking for in a home instance, and there’s a limited amount of activity there, but I’ll give that they seem to have a userbase that seems less suicidally-depressed than some other home instances on the Threadiverse. Note that they have defederated from lemmy.world, as they don’t feel that it fits with their policies, so you’ll have more-limited access to content than on most home instances. Also, I remember seeing that they were considering moving to some non-Lemmy platform (Pleroma? Can’t remember), so if you specifically want Lemmy, that might not work for you if they do such a move.
I don’t actually care about censoring like that, I think most communities, if they speak up enough individually, create their own culture that is self enforcing as new people learn their roles. This is supported ny how users on different subreddits will adopt different cultures automatically without even knowing the rules. In the earlier days, this was when mods would simply DM you or comment to you to ask you to change your comment and explain why. There was a lot more grace and gentle enforcement/explanations rather than strict bans or complete removals, which helped cultire form as a lot of times mods would help with word choice.
Funny enough, reminds me of an adhd subreddit where the rule was that you couldn’t use the word “you” at all, because people with ADHD often have demand hypersensitivity triggered by the use of “you.” And no exceptions allowed because that’s confusing for English 2nd language speakers. They were always demanding edits lol
Even without all that, most people can pick up on culture just by the reactions of the users.
I am just looking for a space that has attracted like, queer anarchist scientists who like to talk also about politics, philosophy, economics, and understand trading stocks and how marketing and the news moves stocks. It’s a simple request (jk)
I’m gonna keep it real with you. You’re going to see the same problems no matter which instance you end up on.
I have no idea who you are, and I don’t care. However, purely looking at your account history and modlog, you seem like a generally unpleasant person. You come off as someone who picks fights and can’t take criticism. The way you act is rude, hostile, and annoying. You also seem to be into some weird conspiracies, which makes you look unhinged. That’s probably why you keep getting banned. You’re not being banned for being a woman or a feminist, but because you break a lot of rules, at least according to the modlog.
My point is that it doesn’t matter which instance or platform you go to. You’re the common denominator. Obviously, that doesn’t mean people should harass you, but it does mean you’re at least partly responsible for how people interact with you. Lemmy is usually a chill place if you avoid politics, and even then, most people are nice as long as you’re civil. From what I see people are just treating you the way you treat them, so there’s a good chance that your problems might follow you on a new instance.
Here’s an article on tone policing: https://www.housing.wisc.edu/2023/12/inclusive-language-series-tone-policing-2/
• You need to recognize the indicators of tone policing, such as telling someone to calm down or to lower their tone for their message to be better received.
• Understand that various levels of emotions will often be expressed, especially during political or hot topic conversations.
• To refrain from invalidating other people’s feelings, try self-reflecting on your desire to invalidate their emotions and think about if this is due to your own discomfort.
• Tone policing must stop, especially when engaging in conversations regarding experiences with discrimination, oppression, and racism.
Here’s an article on hysteria: https://www.bps.org.uk/psychologist/hysteria-historical-mirror-misogyny-medicine
During the early 20th century, women were thought to be unfit for politics as their biology made them prone to hysteria. The suffrage movement became linked to hysteria and mental disorder, due to propaganda from the press and the government (Iglikowski-Broad, 2018). Attempts at militancy in their pursuit for equality were branded as hysteria by anti-suffrage supporters, demonstrating how use of mental health could be used to belittle the efforts of the women at the time (Thompson, 2016).
Lol no.
It’s amazing, men will do ANYTHING but admit misogyny, even while our government is being actively taken over by misogynists taking away bodily autonomy, the right to divorce, charges for beating your spouse, being able to vote, etc etc. These are all real policy proposals by my government in the last year. And you want to claim that the misogyny is all in my head - a misogynist thing to think and say. The rape threats aren’t in my head, and aren’t being said to men.
I am on other forums, I exist irl, and have been for decades - the issues I see are due to sexism here. That is my experience as a woman. It has also gotten worse as 5th gen warfare has gotten worse (esp since 2016). You don’t need to argue, insult me, or make up alternative theories - this is due to sexism. Period.
If you don’t get this, then you are a misogynist too.
I didn’t ask for your opinions on any of this, and your opinions are dogshit anyway. I asked what instance I might like. If you don’t know, go away.
To be fair he’s a nazi whining about immigration
https://harpers.org/archive/1941/08/who-goes-nazi/
Why do you think so many people back then automatically associated a hatred of women with Nazism? It isn’t just Dorothy Thompson, it’s also Eugene V Debs and others. They all accurately identified a love of women and fair treatment of women as being anti-fascist.
Case in point lmao
…ditto
Way to immediately prove their point
They actually proved mine first.
You are delusional.
The truth of the world is that most people don’t really care what gender you are. And most people on the internet don’t know what your gender is until you tell them.
Fast forward to you going straight to treating people like shit, and immediately using your gender to declare anyone that pushes back as a bigot in order to avoid any and all criticism. That’s not healthy behavior. Go seek help, particularly therapy
Yes, I am soooo delusional, no one cares abiut gender, such a stupid feminist for thinking people care about gender, and that RFK Jr just said we should diagnose women with TDS (meaning he’d put them in his camps) if they choose to take Tylenol for their pregnancy isn’t a sign of the rampant sexism killing and enslaving women. /s
You would never gaslight to benefit your own sex/men with this. /s You would never say “this is nothing” like the Republicans are currently saying about sending the national guard to Portland and Chicago and possibly invoking the insurrection act. /s. No, that is not something I’ve seen thousands of men do in the last year. /s
None of you even TALK about these concerns or topics. The misogyny is transparent. You’ve spent more effort insulting me in bad faith than critcizing ANY of the current harm to women. You are clearly a misogynist, a gender fascist.
Yes, it’s all in my head as a hysterical woman. /s
My experience of sexism isn’t a debatable topic. It is simply true.
And yes, most people see my username and know I am a woman.
I didn’t ask for your opinions on any of this, and your opinions are dogshit anyway. I asked what instance I might like. If you don’t know, go away.
Seems like you failed to answer me, so go ahead and leave, I made it clear I dont like misogynists like you. Stop bothering women who don’t want to be around you. No means no.
Blahaj zone is lovely
I’ve been happy with sh.itjust.works
Same. Nobody fucks with me here, and that’s just the way I like it.
Agreed. Excellent instance with excellent admin team. Us users can be a bit awful, though.
I just want to say I’m truly sorry for your experience. Unfortunately Lemmy is also run by mostly men, probably mostly cis, hetero and white.
Unfortunately Lemmy is also run by mostly men, probably mostly cis, hetero and white.
😔😔😔😔😔😔🥀🥀🥀🥀🥀🥀🥀🥀 How sad! That’s the worst type of men! 🥀🥀🥀🥀🥀🥀🥀🥀😔😔😔😔😔😔
Since joining Lemmy I have been repeatedly harassed by men on this instance, threatened with murder and rape by users including open Nazis (this was also happening on Reddit), and permabanned for being a woman,
Wow, I knew .world was bad, but holy shit I have never had to deal with anything this egregious in my time here on .ml. That said I did get banned from a .world comm as retaliation for banning jordanlund from /c/transgender when he posted a matt walsh video
No offense but you have open and obvious 5th gen warfare on .ml. Like very severe and dangerous 5th gen warfare. It makes that instance unusable.
Makes sense JL likes Matt Walsh lol, entirely fits with his personality. Thank you for your service in bullying him
I’m not trying to be rude either tbh. That said I don’t see the danger here that you see. If russia and china are spending money on influence operations on lemmy it’s manifestly a waste of resources. There’s platforms out there with way more reach and that’s why states like the US and Israel are so obsessed with controlling those platforms.
I can appreciate not liking the way people here behave, I do generally encourage people who don’t like the vibe to avoid it rather than spend all their time engaging and getting mad.
5th gen warfare is dangerous and effective. The point is to create waves of conversation that stack up like a rogue wave in the ocean and flood information systems and thoughts so real information can’t be deciminated and real progress cannot be achieved, and also for monetary gain in ways you may not expect, including crypto.
There are obvious phrases - the last big one was the Cracker Barrel logo change whixh waa found to be almost entirely bot (aka human slave as most bots are human slaves) driven. Conveniently, this allowed them to short Cracker Barrel and make money btw, while also holding them for ransom unless they can pony up money and fall in line.
If you dislike fascism, this is blatant fascism. It’s an issue. Not least due to the human slave component and how it has successfully been used to overthrow democracies and human rights worldwide. It’s as serious as taking a bullet.
I have family members who are sort of the equivalent of having died, they have unrecognizable political positions and aren’t themselves anymore. The person that existed was gone and the person in their place only understands and talks about the 5th gen buzzword phrases. Breaking them out of this cult fever is extremely difficult and takes a lot of references to values and things they once loved… And then they think of the buzzword phrase and snap right back into the 5th gen warfare propaganda.
We probably both think the Gazan people deserve food, right? But a lot of those “fundraisers” to give them food and accounts are literally 5th gen warfare stealing money to harm Gazans. That shit is not benign, it is killing people. It is serious af.
Frankly I was here to give people educational info and a warning about WW3 and US civil war that seem imminent, along with global human trafficking involved in these orgs (Assad, Andrew Tate, Trump, Putin, etc etc etc). I was trying to get people to not starve and to build uo stores of gold and silver (you can get silver from collecting most silver colored US coins printed before 1964). I no longer care to keep warning people here. Either they know or they don’t. Either they understand the financial component or they don’t. I am just one person fighting against slave armies. It’s up to them to have wisdom and discretion.
It is now time for me to move on and make progress with like minded people who can do so. I do not have time to educate on the basics of basics anymore- that has passed. No more time.
The first person every abolitionist should free is themselves.
