• FooBarrington@lemmy.world
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    The rate of regret for transition is massively lower than almost any other medical intervention. Why do you care so much about this one specific type of intervention, above all others? Why not invest your activism into medical interventions with much higher rates of regret?

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      They would have known this if they bothered to open the surgery regret rate studies I linked them (but we both know studies won’t change their minds). For the lazy it’s less than 1% for both transmascs and transfems.

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      So requesting you be honest and fully inform kids is pedophiliac tendencies? You do get how this makes you look? Right?

      Please point out where I mentioned anything anti-trans. Or is this again by requesting honesty and transparency? Again, you do realise how this makes you look? Right?

      Judging from the responses and downvotes, I can see this community still doesn’t want informed consent…

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        So requesting you be honest and fully inform kids is pedophiliac tendencies? You do get how this makes you look? Right?

        No, I’m talking about your kiddy diddling/anti-trans rhetoric. Why do you diddle kids/spread anti-trans rhetoric?

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            Well, you’re posting anti-trans rhetoric (talking about regret rates without mentioning that they are much lower than almost any others, talking as if people weren’t well-informed about the risks during the multi-year process it takes to transition etc). I can quote your whole post back to you if it helps you? But you can just scroll up and read your own comment, it’s a neat function of messaging boards.

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                Implying that the current levels of informed consent aren’t enough to properly inform people, and further implying that large amounts of regret exist due to transitioning, is without question anti-trans.

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                  Please point out where I made those statements?

                  As was mentioned, it’s a long process. With still 1%, which is a very conservative estimate, regretting it after all those years, all that information. I feel this should be mentioned.

                  What you did not mention however was the 13% that stopped transitioning and started detransitioning. The previous 1% only takes into account completed transitions. Since it’s a lengthy process, there are many that stop during the process.

                  That should also be mentioned and the fact that you willingly choose to omit it shows you do not want informed consent.

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                    Wow, you really can’t scroll up? Fine, here’s your previous comment:

                    Weird how you left out the links of studies, reports of people that actually do regret it. I mean should we just ignore those people?

                    If you want kids to be able to make these decisions, you will have to inform them. Properly. Not just paint them a nice picture. That’s what you’re currently doing. Not informing them and painting nice pink pictures.

                    It is not sunshine and rainbows for everyone. There are trans people who regret it. Ignoring that fact is being dishonest with yourself and the transcommunity.

                    Not sure why you’re telling me I didn’t mention some 13% number, when I didn’t mention any numbers at all. Yet it’s even more weird that you’re not bringing up that even those 13% are lower than most other medical interventions. Again, why do you keep focusing on trans topics, when other medical interventions have this issue to a much larger degree?

                    Why do you want to diddle small children/spread anti-trans rhetoric?

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                    Provide peer-reviewed evidence to your claims, or you will be banned for multiple instances of misinformation.

                    10 hours.