• Holyginz@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    What I’ve seen so many people not understand with the situation we are in right now, is that we can’t fix our current situation in one election. Everything is far to tucked up for that, so the best that can be done is vote for the least fucked up option and work to improve things. People refusing to participate or vote for the candidate who is unfortunately our best option currently (biden) are doing more damage than the people voting for the fascist party. The perfect candidate/option does not exist and never will (obviously not saying everything biden has done has been good).

  • abracaDavid@lemmy.today
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    1 year ago

    This is some weird ass propaganda.

    The best thing that Biden ever did was just to not be Trump.

    Why are these memes so weirdly die-hard in the support of a man that is visibly unfit for the 4 years of presidency?

    No one is actually excited about old Joe. It’s just that he’s simply not Trump.

    It would be best if he steps down so that we can get a person in office that actually excites people for more than just not being the other guy.

  • paddirn@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    1 year ago

    Still voting Biden, but this feels an awful lot like many past elections where people are holding their nose and voting for a candidate they don’t necessarily like just because they don’t like the other candidate. Those elections never seem to turn out good.

  • UncleGrandPa@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Íf he wore a clown suit and only spoke Pig-Latin during the debate… considering the alternative

    He would STILL be the only viable candidate worth voting for

  • ameancow@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    I will cast my vote between tears but nobody ever promised preserving democracy will always make you feel good.

    In fact, I am close to launching into a really hard condemnation of every last one of you lazy-ass motherfuckers who expect everything to always play out like a 2-dimensional anime plot where you’re the good guy so you’re supposed to always feel good, and any struggles are easily overcome, and if it doesn’t play out like that, then you go full doomer-mode and grab your soapbox to preach how pointless life is just because you’re lonely but too scared to talk to a girl. Go back to your discord safe-spaces and let adults out here make the hard choices.

  • Buffalox@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Just because you are still voting Biden, doesn’t mean you don’t care.
    It just means you still don’t want the raving malignant narcissist Trump.
    Any somewhat normal person would be the obvious choice over Trump. Any person who is not clearly a traitor to USA and Democracy would be preferable to Trump.

    • Richard@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      1 year ago

      I don’t know about the “traitor” thing. Edward Snowden would definitely make a better president than Trump.

      • nomous@lemmy.world
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        1 year ago

        Snowden verifiably paid a higher price while serving the interests of the people. Sacrificed far more than Trump ever has or will. He was a fairly connected govt contractor living in Hawaii, living a good life before he had to flee.

  • demizerone@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    I’m voting for the man with one foot in the coffin that is not trump, but it doesn’t matter because I don’t live in a swing state.

  • psycho_driver@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    I’m voting against Trump. Not thrilled to have a president who might have to have his Oval Office relocated to a nursing home.

  • Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works
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    1 year ago

    I think the real upsetting thing isn’t Biden’s performance, or havong Biden as president four more years. He achieved quite a bit after all. The real upsetting thing is the DNC being such cunts that they even pushed for this debate, hoping that Biden could win, only to deny and ignore Biden’s abhorrent performance immediately after. That Bernie got shafted twice by them, that is the really upsetting part.

      • Pandantic [they/them]@midwest.socialEnglish
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        1 year ago

        The title of this video is “An Anarchistic Watches West Wing” or something similar. I only watched 20mins but it was good so far. It’s a criticism of the American Capitalist system, American Democracy (power of the president, presidential hero worship), etc. via the way it’s portrayed in the West Wing.

        • rambling_lunatic@sh.itjust.works
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          1 year ago

          Aye. The timestamp I linked specifically talks about something talked about in this thread, which is that the DNC would rather have the far right win than move left.

          • Pandantic [they/them]@midwest.socialEnglish
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            1 year ago

            I’m using the app’s built in video player and I guess it didn’t recognize the time stamp. I wanted to give people an idea of the context because I think it’s worth a watch. I’ll give that timestamped portion a watch later.

    • whocares314@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      It seems pretty obvious to me at this point that the DNC would rather lose than have an actual progressive win. None of the shitty things that Trump wants to do will hurt them, (stupid take if they cared at all about their descendants but they’re either too arrogant or too ignorant to worry about that) but actual progressive policies that helped average people WOULD hurt their way of life. Marginally. Like, the tiniest little amount. Like, your yacht can only have one master bedroom instead of four. But why give that up when you don’t have to?

      “It’s a big club, and you ain’t in it”

      I’m voting for Biden though, and I’ll keep voting as progressively as possible in the down ballot elections. If a progressive movement from the bottom up can start by doing things like getting rid of FPTP, we still have a chance. And to anyone thinking about not voting, please do. The president is one person. They are the single most powerful person individually, (taking aside impact on the judicial system) but the collective impact on your day to day life is far more influenced by down ballot positions. Research your down ballot candidates and vote. Many of those races are decided by only a handful of votes. Yours matters.

      • crusa187@lemmy.ml
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        1 year ago

        DNC would rather lose than have an actual progressive win

        This was made perfectly clear in 2016 when Hillary stole the nom by colluding with Debbie Wasserman-Schultz.

        If people haven’t caught on by now, they haven’t been paying attention. Or are just willfully ignorant.

      • pivot_root@lemmy.world
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        1 year ago

        It seems pretty obvious to me at this point that the DNC would rather lose than have an actual progressive win.

        It’s not in their interests to let a progressive win. Just like their counterpart, the DNC takes a shit ton of bribery donations from corporations lobbyists. Bringing in a progressive who would reform the system or push back against pro-corporate policies is biting the hands that feed them.

  • drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    I am voting against trump. Biden and establishment Dems suck. But there is literally no other option. If you don’t vote and trump wins you would be at fault every bit as his voters will be