No gun, I bet there’s no case that stands. He already threatened to shoot people before. Must be preparing for his TPUSA interview.
Surely the only tried and tested way to become a martyr for Chralie Kirk is to assassinate another right-wing talking head. This guy was just plotting plain old domestic terrorism. Mediocre.
I’m starting to think this Charlie Kirk guy kinda deserved what happened…
Are they sure he is a liberal, transexual, democrat? Because according to the MAGA cult those are the only violent ones.
Honestly, I question whether it is ever deserved. However, Charlie Kirk advocated for it, so I’m not exactly upset.
Right, he may have not deserved it, but he actively campaigned on the idea that deaths like his were acceptable losses.
Exactly - he would have wanted it this way.
Tell me whyyyyyy!
It’s more he would be ok with it this way. I doubt he wanted to die. But he would have been entirely accepting of how he died.
I mean, sure, when he said that gun deaths were necessary, I’m sure in his swollen head he was imagining it would be brown people and children taking the bullets instead, but it’s just plain nice that he got what he asked for.
It’s worth it to look in to the tolerance Paradoxon.
Basically, intolerance can not be tolerated.
Its the whole reason violence has become acceptable. Society’s duty is to ostracize and make those who espouse hate and violence, feel unwelcome. Yet society rewards those people. When peaceful change becomes impossible. Violent change becomes inevitable.
I’m not sure who you’re referencing now with the Paradoxon. But yeah, we (as in humans) tolerated too much hate and this is what we get.
And I was referring to whether it is ever deserved because regarding this, well, yes.
Just society and humans. We have failed basic due diligence to tolerance consistently and often.
He deserved it, but in the way Tolkien described those deserving death.
Charlie Kirk would’ve supported what happened to Charlie Kirk
These fucking slack jawed brainlets still haven’t come to terms with the fact that Kirk’s killer was one of their own.
Tyler Robinson was probably a leftist!
Bot gotta keep the rubes in line.
Statistically, no.
…statistically?
Based on government and independent analyses, right-wing extremist violence has been responsible for the overwhelming majority of fatalities, amounting to approximately 75% to 80% of U.S. domestic terrorism deaths since 2001.
Thats the weakest argument I have heard today and I spike with a flat earth believer…
Meanwhile, elsewhere on lemmy, you are apparently fairly recently starting HRT yourself, or considering it, and are concerned about a potential crackdown on transfolk in Hungary.
https://lemmy.world/post/25665488
From which side of the political spectrum do you think that would come from?
The… left, apparently?
Obvious troll is obvious.
Either that, or you bounced off the idea of transitioning so hard that you became either a complete idiot, or basically a fascist.
It can be difficult to tell the difference between those two.
Not impossible I guess, but certainly does make you seem incredibly unstable.
Yea I was told that being contradictory to your groups interest not only makes me a right winger but an American too somehow, lets add troll to that list
The only evidence available to us points us to him being a leftist, regardless of how many folks get butthurt by that fact
What?
You asked for statistics, and here are the statistics.
And spiking a flat-earther isn’t the flex you think it is. I could probably spike a 2nd grader, but I wouldn’t brag about doing it.
Statistics don’t give any evidence about the ideology of any particular shooting. The statistics say that around 20% are done by people on the left.
That’s nowhere near close enough to confidently state Robinson wasn’t on the left.
I could not comprehend why anyone would use that word there… Do you think it would be an intelligent thing to say that black people must be behind crime ‘a’ or say this crime, because statistically they commit more crime? Oh, but this nonsense must work in your proposition because its in favor of your rhetoric!
That was not a flex, it was an insult :))
and I spike with a flat earth believer…
I believe you.
Someone who is scientifically illiterate to plead someone else’s argument is far less bad as being so ideologically blinded as to be incapable of accepting that ‘a’ thing was done by your tribe!
There’s a thing called “Poe’s Law” that states “without a clear indicator of the author’s intent, any parodic or sarcastic expression of extreme views can be mistaken by some readers for a sincere expression of those views.”
So your “joke” relies on the idea that zero rightwing nutjobs will read it as encouragement. Which is just highly unlikely.
It’s very difficult to joke about extremism online because there’ll almost always be extremists who take it as encouragement. To them, you’re indistinguishable from any other MAGA supporter.
Its not a joke, on the information available to us I am led to believe that he may have been a leftist!
What they have in the Us, in terms of political ideologies, cannot be considered leftism by an stretch of the word! Alas, I would have no insecurities if one of my tribesmen were to do something I disagree with
So you’re on the other end of Poe’s law, an extremist with an incoherent viewpoint.
Its extremism to believe that a person on whom all information available points to him leaning to left being someone who leans to the left… I reckon I am an extremist
“All information available” is apparently one BBC article that you keep posting over and over, while calling numerous articles and studies on the ideology of most domestic terrorists “made up,” and the conclusions you draw from your one single source an “assumption.” Gosh that’s some irrefutable evidence you’ve got there chief. 🙄
-Yea, thats all the info we have available! You are welcome to post more, though I reckon you would have if you had any more!
-What studies did I call made up again?
I haven’t seen any hard evidence he was a full-on leftist, but I haven’t seen any hard evidence he was maga either.
From what I’ve seen, he was definitely left of his parents, but there’s a whole lot of different ideologies to the left of maga.
I think the only way we’ll know for sure his ideology is if he says so.
Maybe we should just lie and pretend he was so you people can have something to actually be afraid of.
1 Not an American 2 Not a right winger
Hahahahahaha sure sparky
Yup, all people saying facts that are against the interest of your political party is an American and right wing
Of course not, that would be ridiculous. The right wing doesn’t use facts, as you’ve nicely demonstrated.
Oh love can you bend backwards a little harder so that you finally break your spine and I finally won’t have to listen to you throwing a tantrum? I would really appreciate it!
Quoting from a bbc article is not evidence anymore…
Hey now, let’s not judge them as American. They might be a member of the German AFD party!
Being cucked in argument < attack their person
Ain’t you a sad puppy
Citation
Leftists who dress as Trump for Hallowe’en:
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Okay to be fair, I have a realistic Doug Ford (corrupt Conservative Premier of Ontario) mask that I love adding to random halloween costumes. I hate the guy with a passion and am very much on the left but I still find it funny
If it’s one of those realistic latex masks, it does sound terrifying – like how the Captain Kirk mask was used for Mike Meyers in Halloween.
Do you guys dress up as people you look up for to an event where you supposedly scare people into giving you candy?
- “Robinson’s mother said her son had started to lean more to the left, Utah County Attorney Jeff Gray told a news conference on Tuesday, “becoming more pro-gay and trans-rights orientated””
+2 Proud republican behavior: “Public records reviewed by the BBC suggest Robinson had in the past registered as an unaffiliated, or nonpartisan, voter in Utah. His parents, Matthew Carl Robinson and Amber Denise Robinson, are registered Republicans, according to state records”
+3 Common republican things “Authorities have said the unnamed roommate was a “biological male” who was transitioning from man to woman and was in a romantic relationship with the defendant.”
Source: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cp8wl2y66p9o.amp
Yea, your rights he was probably a republican! Well not because of the evidence but because it would kinda sound funny if another right wing monkey were shot by their voters
‘More to the left’ of MAGA is not ‘leftist’, ffs. That whole family is deep MAGA, so more to the left isn’t even necessary centrist. Libertarian, maybe, or still far right, but thinks LGBTQ people might be people.
Are you even paying attention? Do you think trans people, women, and immigrants deserve rights? Answer honestly.
These are the only information we have on which we can take a gander to his beliefs, which point to him being a leftist
On what do you base that he is anything else?
You said ‘leftist’, and you made claims about that based on what his grandmother said.
I said coming from a MAGA family, ‘drifting left’ doesn’t necessarily mean ‘leftist’. Compared to MAGA, ‘moving left’ can mean anything from libertarian to centrist. That’s not a claim, it’s calling you on your claim.
We don’t yet know anything about him other than his family is MAGA and Mormon, so let’s not speculate what his beliefs are, eh?
Mother, now now someone is even struggling with reading exerts from a source…
Coming from a background is almost as weak sauce as your statistics argument
Aaaaaaah, so now we go from he is ‘right wing ‘to lets not speculate… If we go by facts researched provided by an actually neutral party, that of the british national news source, we can only assume that he was left leaning and by his action that he is an extremist! Just because he did something you actually don’t disagree with I reckon, but is disadvantageous for your group does not give you the right to decide his political beliefs
/s?
He was raised Mormon in a full MAGA family, and nearly all photos show him surrounded with rifles.
He may have been confused, and I can buy he went libertarian, but if he was a leftist, I’ll eat my hat on camera.
e: oh no, it wasn’t /s, judging by your other comments. That’s just sad.
- “Robinson’s mother said her son had started to lean more to the left, Utah County Attorney Jeff Gray told a news conference on Tuesday, “becoming more pro-gay and trans-rights orientated””
+2 Proud republican behavior: “Public records reviewed by the BBC suggest Robinson had in the past registered as an unaffiliated, or nonpartisan, voter in Utah. His parents, Matthew Carl Robinson and Amber Denise Robinson, are registered Republicans, according to state records”
+3 Common republican things “Authorities have said the unnamed roommate was a “biological male” who was transitioning from man to woman and was in a romantic relationship with the defendant.”
Source: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cp8wl2y66p9o.amp
What I think is sad that you scream-cry after plugging your ear in, because maybe one of your tribe dod something bad! Tough knuckies, thats the drawback of being part of a group
You seem to be projecting your ‘scream-cry’ onto me, when all I did was give you the statistics you asked for.
I’ll not hold your hand when you can’t click links and read, and I’ll not entertain your childish soliloquies.
Type another inane dissertation all you like – I didn’t sign up here to be an elementary school teacher.
You read the comment thread in which someone else posted links, but not my response to that… Superb
Yea, dismiss my argument and do pretend that you didn’t read the exerts from the bbc article that delved into his presumed beliefs! Kinda happy you fuck off, you have nothing to contribute
Sigh. My comment, my links.
Here, I’ll post it again, since you seem to be a bit in need of coffee or something:
Based on government and independent analyses, right-wing extremist violence has been responsible for the overwhelming majority of fatalities, amounting to approximately 75% to 80% of U.S. domestic terrorism deaths since 2001.
Want to claim the government and independent studies are fake again?
You think I am going to memorize usernames? And why aren’t you responding to my question that I posed to your brilliant argument? Why don’t you think that black people committed this crime? They are statistically more likely to do so
Also, aren’t you the pup who claimed the one source I have been posting again and agaon is not from the bbc…? You are! Who is having issues opening and reading links?
Rightist fake news!
The bbc is now right wing fake news…
- “Robinson’s mother said her son had started to lean more to the left, Utah County Attorney Jeff Gray told a news conference on Tuesday, “becoming more pro-gay and trans-rights orientated””
+2 Proud republican behavior: “Public records reviewed by the BBC suggest Robinson had in the past registered as an unaffiliated, or nonpartisan, voter in Utah. His parents, Matthew Carl Robinson and Amber Denise Robinson, are registered Republicans, according to state records”
+3 Common republican things “Authorities have said the unnamed roommate was a “biological male” who was transitioning from man to woman and was in a romantic relationship with the defendant.”
To your point #3 just because there is a trans person, doesn’t mean they are left wing. See caitlyn jenner
One of the first transpersons I ever met was a loud and proud anarcho-capitalist.
Regardless, overwhelming majority of right wimgers reject and shun transfolk
I’m just gonna hold my breath until right wing grifters and politicians condemn this violence
Danm, it’s a water mark! Was hoping he got his ass handed to him.
Shame someone didn’t “martyr” him on the spot.
A tragic waste of functioning organs.
some functioning organs the brain is defective
Put this bigoted homophobe under the fucking jail.
It’s all the Halo he played, obviously.
He looks more like an AD&D guy.
Cabinet position in 3, 2…
I like how the pigs watermark that shit so we can’t profit off their images of imbeciles.
Ya know, back in my Christian days I always thought it was pretty great that the bar for heaven was so low… Now I crave the flame to avoid these fuckwits
Edit: typo
Don’t give them that much credit. If heaven and hell are real, and God is just, these people won’t be invited to the BBQ.
A fair point. Tho, at least biblically speaking, justice seems circumstancial and warped
Well, they’ll be invited to a BBQ, just one where they’ll be on the spit
This isn’t news or a news outlet.
be a martyr of charlie kirk. wow. I guess donald trump would ring the same for me. Really. I mean really. You have seen these pathetic people?
49 wow he looks way older
Yeah, damn. He looks like he’s at least ten years older than that.
Impotent rage is a helluva drug
Racism does that to a man
