gotta love brownshirts doing brownshirt things
You don’t get a Nazi protest about your death if you’re a good person.
Huntington beach has had a neo-nazi problem for a long time. Decades.
What could possibly have been a nearby beacon?
It’s a roll call. They’re against whomever isn’t out there with them.
but all the right wingers on social media were saying that it’s so telling that there’s no riots when somebody on the right dies???
White men fight back against… a white man. good job there boys we got’em
guys, enough with the foreplay and kiss already
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Fight back against the white men who are killing the other white men?
They believe the left consists of no one but minorities, lgbtq, and women.
I’m not kidding at all. I can walk right up to these conversations people will have and no one will blink an eye.
But they believe it so much that they will kill other white men who don’t conform to the group. That’s why Kirk was killed. He was a man that existed outside the in-group and needed to be cleaned up.
he isnt right enough for the groypers, they need to be nick fuentes right, not Charlie kirk right.
All of these takes are plausible, but it’s still just pure speculation. He’s not a clear indication of either side or sub-group, so until more definitive evidence comes out it only does more damage to make unfounded claims.
At this point, I don’t expect any more actual evidence to come out. There’s more than enough for the right to bang the drum about the left, even if it’s specious, and everyone surrounding the suspect has a vested interest in making sure that’s where the narrative goes.
If there was solid proof he was left-leaning, they would have blasted that out to the world already, so that’s pretty clear. However, I’m guessing they’ve already found indications he’s even farther right than CK, but are trying to not release that because that goes against their narrative. I don’t trust Kash Patel or Trump in the slightest.
They’re not interested in getting the message. The dog whistles went out a long time ago and there’s no calling them back.
I have reliable intel that Saddam Hussein was behind this
Unless you’ve spent time around these people, it is almost impossible to really grasp how little understanding they have of factual reality.
I guarantee you they all think the left killed Charlie Kirk. Their whole picture of the world is formed from absolutely insane Republican propaganda. They probably don’t even really encounter the “theory” that the assassin was sent by anyone else, but that can be safely discounted like lemmy.ml discounts Wikipedia, because the whole media is a
NATOliberal lie machine that’s just designed to destroy them. And they all get together with each other and aggressively reinforce to each other the model they’ve been given. It gives them a warm feeling of belonging, because there is almost no community or brotherhood in American society in the present day, and so they’re getting something they need way deep deep down in their soul, from being able to get together and feel like they’re on the same team with trusted allies against a genuine threat, and talk together and get amped up facing all in the same direction and feel together.The left killed Charlie Kirk. Biden stole the election. The planes are crashing because of DEI. Michelle Obama is a man. Kids are peeing in litter boxes at school. The left is doing post-birth abortions, or pushing the babies back up into the mother so they can kill it and call it an abortion. Men are joining women’s sports and going into women’s bathrooms and saying they’re “transgender” and it’s a horrifying threat, the little girls are getting beat up when they just want to do sports. Covid was mostly just a bad cold that the pharmaceutical companies made into a big deal, and the vaccine is killing people.
It’s just a nonstop avalanche of nonsense, and they all think it’s all true. Every word. Another thing that American society has denied to them is a solid grasp on the world outside, an understanding of history and the forces that are shaping their daily lives. They definitely know that the life they live isn’t the way it’s supposed to be. But they don’t really have the critical thinking skills they would need in order to poke holes in this whole explanation they get for why that is (which they get inundated with), and they would pay a punishing social cost if they ever started questioning even the elements that really don’t make much sense. But most of it genuinely makes sense to them. They hear it every day at loud, loud volume, and they don’t hear much else.
And part of what they know for sure is who to blame: You and me. We ruined the world they worked so hard to build, and now we’re openly assassinating their heroes. And so why wouldn’t they fight “back”?
It’s just a nonstop avalanche of nonsense, and they all think it’s all true. Every word.
The reality is so much worse.
The great majority of them KNOW it’s not true, but pretend to “because fuck you, you can’t prove I don’t.”
I’ve talked with them. They think it’s true. The internet twats who are smart enough to know it’s basically lies but just enjoy the fact that they can play around and get people frustrated by arguing with them are the absolute upper echelon of educatedness. People who play around on the wider internet and are exposed to lots of conflicting points of view is the environment for you and me, but it is not where most of the January 6th people existed, intellectually.
Milton Sanford Mayer interviewed a bunch of people in Germany after the war, and except for one professor, none of them had any idea about the camps or much idea of anything the Nazis were up to. They just remembered that they liked Hitler because the country was unified and the economy was better, but then the allies started bombing them, and it was dangerous and their cities got ruined, and they didn’t like that. Mostly the mindset was “what the fuck how could they be so mean to us, we didn’t do anything.” I mean, what newspaper would they even read to find out anything different? We’re spoiled for choice in the modern world in terms of knowing more or less what’s going on, but that shit’s not automatic.
Just like Jesus preached.
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supply side jesus.
“If anyone smacks you on the right cheek, turn and slap that mofo upside the head” : Trump 3:16
Republican Jesus! The guy who said that the sick deserve it, fuck your neighbors you got yours, and amass as much wealth as possible.
Except trump is a weakling and a coward. If you slapped him and there was no one around to protect him, he would beg and grovel and cry and offer you money to stop.
Party o
f law and order.Naw, parties are fun, this is sad.
I don’t know, I’m having a pretty good time watching them implode. Could be one of those rare occasions where the trash takes itself out for a change.
Maybe they should focus on doing something about white on white crime, before taking to the streets and making it out problem…
You’re acting like they feel shame or care about their hypocrisy. If they’re knowingly acting in bad faith from the start, there’s really only one way to deal with them.
They probably still think the killer is a trans immigrant. Much more convenient than facing reality.
No, it’s somewhat more disturbing.
Kirk was outside of the shooter’s in group. In Fascism those in the out group need to shut up and get out of the way. It doesn’t matter to the shooter that Kirk was an ultraconservative bigoted lunatic, he wasn’t conservative enough. Since he was still talking and not getting out of the way, the Fascist believes he has an obligation to fix that problem.
And what’s stranger, is that there is no doubt in my mind that Kirk thought the same thing about Fuenes. But they would both agree that if I had any public speaking ability (or any speaking ability for that matter) I would definitely be more important to sanitize first.
Fascists are elementary school boys left without supervision. That’s all they really are.
As motivation for the killing, what you’re saying is correct. But when it comes to protesting in the streets, they’re going to go after their usual token minorities, regardless of who did the actual killing. Hence why they’re trying real hard to label an obvious groyper as “left-leaning” and pretending he had a trans roommate.
Honest question: Can you please explain how he is an “obvious groyper”? I would like actual evidence, not just vibes. Everyone is saying he’s not on their side and he has some characteristics of both, so what are you basing that idea on?
White men are fighting back. That’s why Charlie Kirk is dead.
Absolutely, when white men are being oppressed, it’s generally by other white men. So I guess white men are fighting back against other white people. But no that’s not it, for some reason they are oppressing minorities of all kinds instead, because skin color and culture scares them. In fact everything scares them, like science and everything based on reason even human rights are scaring them now, so they want to take them away.
Why? Because they are so fucking stupid, they are scared of everything about society, because they understand nothing, and that makes them scared.Regarding Charlie Kirk specifically, he was white right wing extremist who condoned gun violence, who was killed by another white right wing extremist, who used gun violence to kill him.
What the fuck is it they think they are protesting? They are their own worst enemy, not normal sensible people who actually care about other people. Or what they call “radical left”.
The radical left… didn’t you hear? How dare they want rights for people… how fucking dare they think thats a good idea… so let’s kill more people that are not white…
The fucking level insanity going on is insane
The logic is along the lines:
I’m starving and they want to give everybody food. But I don’t want everybody to have food, I want more food just for ME!.And:
They want freedom of religion (normalo people) , but as a right wing extremist I don’t want that, I want all religious privileges for MY religion, and none for the others. So I can discriminate them, but they can’t discriminate me.There is no living peacefully with such people, they hate everything that is in any way different from themselves, and they are selfish to a degree they believe they are somehow entitled to have it better than other people.
And the “somehow” is because of their race and their religion which is barely religion, because they have zero actual religious knowledge, it’s merely a faith they believe agree with all their own prejudices about the world,and their sense of entitlement.
It’s insane that so many humans have such low intelligence. And I’m not talking about learning from books and being good at science, the bigger problem is that any sensible social intelligence is completely gone for very large parts of American society, and we just saw it’s a problem in UK too.
Yeah, it’s all about in groups and out groups… which is about controlling people by making them part of a group and others not…
Damn…punching down like ya do. Soooo…this is all just the White Man freaking out they won’t be on top forever. Nice.
One can only hope. First time I heard the white replacement theory I said “thank God, we sure as shit ruined it for everyone else.”
Do they realize these dudes they want to fight back against have all been white men?
