• Rothe@piefed.social
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      2 days ago

      Nazism should automatically be dismissed. There is no appeasing nazis. We literally had a world war over this.

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        Exactly why we are here. You can’t effectively deal with something you don’t like by pretending it doesn’t exist. All you do is deafen yourself to the increasing volume.

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          The fuck is this Nazi apologia? What do you want? Do you want every one to hung and kiss them because they are just some misunderstood benigne souls? They are active making a choice to take the black pill and foment hate and intolerance.

          I don’t know if you have looked around lately but there is literal gestapo running around black bagging anyone they think is an immigrant. There is an active genocide being perpetrated by the US. The president of the United States openly stated he will persecute all political dissidents. The rule or law and the right to a fair trail has no meaning anymore. I think these neo-nazis have already won.

          Actually, giving them any fucking space to spew their hatred is exactly why we are here. The entire fucking democratic party (and all neo-liberal institutions ) would rather work with literal Nazis than support anyone to the left of them. Biden, Garland, Kamala etc are all complicit in why we are here today with the rise of Naziism.

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            2 days ago

            Why did they make those choices? Are they simply defective humans from birth? Perhaps you think we should have black bagged them to prevent where we are now?

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              That’s my point. They were never NOT heard. They were constantly being boosted by billionaires and popular right wing figures. They made those choices because these figures were telling them to be mad at brown, black, trans and gay people instead of being made at the billionaires and right wing talking heads.

              At the end of the day they made a choice to be hateful and intolerant.

              In the face of an intolerant person, you can’t tell someone being oppressed by the intolerant to just hear them out. That’s insane.

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                Dialogue and understanding are not insane, they are the only peaceful path to grow together. Few people are genuinely horrible, most are ignorant or hurt or scared and reducing their entire life to ‘they chose this so fuck them’, while they have been indoctrinated since birth into right wing ideology is exactly part of the not understanding them. The normal rules of trauma, dogma and ignorance don’t stop being true when it gets hard and that same deafness is what helped make it as hard as it is today to reach them.