Kyle Rittenhouse’s sister Faith is seeking $3,000 on a crowdfunding website in a bid to prevent the eviction of herself and her mother Wendy from their home, citing her “brother’s unwillingness to provide or contribute to our family.”

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    Rittenhouse is an idiot who shouldn’t have crossed state lines to go play police officer in another state. I have no problem that his life has been ruined, and if he had been convicted, I wouldn’t have shed a tear. Not to mention he is a fucking twat (if what the sister says is true) for not helping them out considering it was his stupidity that put this crosshair on their back. So make no mistake about where I stand on this. The guy is an idiot, but I don’t think he was “looking for blood.”

    That being said, the guy didn’t just “have a skateboard” we have a video of him chasing a fleeing rittenhouse and attacking him with the skateboard and trying to grab the gun. The other guy is seen chasing a fleeing Rittenhouse when he turns and shoots. Neither of these people just “flinched.” They were both clearly aggressors.

    Was he justified in shooting them? I’m not so sure. I tend to lean towards “no.” But the fact that you’re grossly misinterpreting what actually happened leads me to believe that you are not so sure either. One who is confident that the facts support claim doesn’t feel the need to grossly misrepresent the facts.

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        No one alleged that Rittenhouse pointed the gun at anyone before he was charged. You need to reexamine your priors on this one.

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      That being said, the guy didn’t just “have a skateboard” we have a video of him chasing a fleeing rittenhouse and attacking him with the skateboard and trying to grab the gun.

      Why was he doing that? Because I still haven’t heard why. Was he just out for blood and decided to attack a random teenager?

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        The most prominent explanation being that he was stopping an active shooter. But even if we accept that story, it completely undercuts the effective argument of “but he just had a skateboard and flinched!”

        I think everyone in this situation thought they were doing the noble thing. It’s just easier to process if we assume one person is a bad guy, and the other person was acting nobly and rationally in pursuit of some higher purpose, rather than accepting the messy truth.

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          Except you are suggesting that the person with the skateboard was in the wrong. If he was stopping what he thought was someone about to kill people, which is not the most unfair assumption to make of a kid with a rifle who is obviously not approving of what he’s seeing, how was he in the wrong? Isn’t that the sort of person the news usually presents to us as the hero?

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            Except you are suggesting that the person with the skateboard was in the wrong.

            No I’m not. I said what I said: he was not some person just holding a skate board who flinched, as painted, but an aggressor. Or are you arguing that charging someone and then hitting them with a skateboard is not aggressive?

            how was he in the wrong?

            Again, I did not say he was in the wrong. I just explicitly said I think he believes he was acting nobly.

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                You realize that you’re ultimately agreeing with my point: this is not some guy who just flinched, but as you are painting him some hero that chased down someone he thought was about to kill people.

                You think he was justified, and maybe he was, but the top level commenter tried to paint this as some innocent person getting shot for not doing anything other than flinching, which grossly misrepresents what you and I both think happened.

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                    I understand that, and I certainly did not say you do. I said you agreed with my ultimate point which I made clear. Why misrepresent what I said?

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        I don’t know why either. But my guess is he was being chased for shouting the N word at a BLM protest. Just a guess though. I doubt he was being cordial.

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          Anyone can guess anything happened in the holes of our knowledge that confirms what we want to believe is true. How is your guess any better than the guess of some conservative who believes he was being attacked by criminals and had the right to defend himself?

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            Actually we have a pretty clear course of events from earlier in the night that helps paint a picture of why it started, though with Rosenbaum dead we can never “know,” we at least have some clues. Kyle was dressed similarly to another dude who put out Rosenbaum’s dumpster fire at the gas station from the “Shoot me N-word” video (the difference being that dude had a plate carrier while kyle did not). Rosenbaum and his friend Ziminski continued to start fires throughout the night, and at one point Kyle runs by alone. Rosenbaum then steps from behind the car he was hiding behind (as seen on the FBI drone footage) and initiates the chase screaming “I’m going to kill you.” Kyle gets cornered as Rosenbaum grabs for it, shoots Rosenbaum, hears “get him” and starts running towards police, gets hit with a rock and downed, misses jump kick man, gets hit with a skateboard and Huber tries to take his gun and gets shot, then Grosskreutz’s fake surrender.

            Seems to indicate to me that it was started by Rosenbaum mistaking his identity and thinking he was the guy with the fire extinguisher from earlier.

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            How is your guess any better than the guess of some conservative who believes he was being attacked by criminals and had the right to defend himself?

            It’s not any better than anyone else’s. I never claimed it was. That’s why I reiterated that is was an opinion guess rather than fact.

            I never said my guess was more valid than others. If you feel I worded it that way then that’s on you. I was just saying what I felt regardless of what others feel on the subject.

            Edit: opinion to guess correction

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                I’m just posting my opinions online like the rest of us.

                What’s the point of guessing like this then?

                I just felt like it.

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                  I’m just posting my opinion

                  I guess this is my issue, it’s a guess about the facts to justify an opinion, rather than an opinion about the facts.