Seems reductive.

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    Because they’re literal fascists, by definition, and are trying to convince others that they are not.

    Fascists always attempt to change the definition of words to suit their narrative.

    Don’t let them.

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    Because it suits them to. That is really all there is to it. “Fascism” got such a universally bad name, that even (almost all) fascists dont want yo call themselves such. Instead, they try to use this negatively associated word to describe the people fighting against them.

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    Fascism is about killing as many people you don’t like as possible, while the richest people in the land consolidate power, and lying about everything to make it possible.

    You are all the good things and your enemies are all the bad things. There is no value in truth or rationality.

    Good luck.

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    There are two things you should read.

    Ur-Fascism by Umberto Eco

    The Authoritarians by Dr. Bob Altemeyer

    To summarize, they do not use any genuine definition of fascism or any other word they wield as a pejorative. Words are weapons that mean whatever they want them to mean. At the same time, the fascist/authoritarian control scheme requires the nurturing of a fear of violence. This fear is irrational, but at the cycle continues and escalates to real violence - particularly among radicalized rightists - it is used to reinforce the fears, which are carefully directed toward the desired out-groups. For example, jews, minorities, immigrants, queer people, and “leftists.”

    To summarize further, they are terrorists.

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    When one party is openly advocating for civil war, and killing their opposition, THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT NEED TO BE DEALT VIOLENCE

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    Why do you accept it at face value when fascists try to call themselves “conservative” instead, when they’re anything but?

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      Because they control the conservative party and conserative spaces. They are still slightly against being called fascist.

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        There hasn’t been a conservative party in this millennium. Twenty years ago there were some conservatives in the right-wing party, today they’ve been purged.

        IDK what you mean by “conservative spaces”.

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          Spaces labeled “conservative.”

          Bitch, conservatives do not get let off the hook because they cant defend their ideology from malignant forces.

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      so this is actually really interesting to me. it’s a willful ignorance that’s produced by their lifestyle but also their religion. killing people through legislation, depriving food/medicine, or with epidemics is a loophole that to them meets the requirements of “not physically attacking” someone.

      so they actively choose not to believe any education they are given about how violence was done in the past or how it transcends physical accost. also when faced with undeniable violence, they can project the supernatural onto it and distance themselves from any sort of introspection.

      just as a thought experiment, empty yourself of any preconceptions and simply observe what they do with this young Utah man. there’s a routine that everyone needs to observe them doing if you’re not caught up to speed on how they work.

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    Some of them do it because they dont want to admit to being fascists themselves…for now. Others genuinely do not care what the true meaning of the word is, and of them, many actively choose to refuse to learn. And some others still are just saying what the talking heads they trust tell them to say, regardless of what they know or knew before.

    Regardless of where they fall on this spectrum, reduction is a big part of the message, one way or another. Restricting how people understand this concept makes it easier to actualize it because vast swaths of these fools will be unable to recognize it for what it is until they find themselves in its very maw.

    Are we all doomed? Cause it’s feeling more and more like we might all be doomed before long ngl

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    They define every single thing as what they need it to mean that day. or hour. or minute. Religions vary wildly from the same religious texts.

    There’s no overall logic. Just lie as they go along, and see what catches. It’s exactly how con-men work.