Until it appears in court, it’s not evidence, it’s speculation or lies.
Writing with a marker is not engraving
How he managed to fit such long messages on a bullet?
Loving how this headline makes it seem like engraving bullets is some sort of rite of passage for gun owners.
And a third unfired case read: “If you read this, you are gay LMAO.”
Fuckin’ lawl
“Did it for the lulz” old meme checks out.
New article suggests the shooter was from a MAGA family, and even had a note about what kind of messages they planned to engrave they had shared on Discord.
The comments in the article have since been retracted; the source hadn’t talked to the shooter in years, and admitted they didn’t remember their relationship
But they were published nonetheless. I gotta admit that, should the writing on the casings be real, a MAGA would be highly unlikely to use the term “fascist.”
Um, those same people called Obama… fucking Obama a fascist and a communist. Talking about MAGA as if they’re coherent is intellectually dishonest. Some of the memes on the shells are about as old as the shooter and only actively cycled in alt right groups.
A MAGA would be highly likely to use the term “fascist” especially if they’re a groyper. They have a history of calling Kirk a fascist and rivaling with TPUSA’s events on college campuses for a while now.
Groyper.
Unlikely. His motivation was to oppose Charlie Kirk from “spreading hate.” That group’s objective would have been the opposite. He was radicalized by the far left.
Who do you mean by far left?
Anybody even remotely left of Reagan.
Reagan the COMMUNIST?!?!
Liar.
Source on that?
Let’s update em: https://www.commondreams.org/news/charlie-kirk-2673989947
Wow, you must be so embarrassed.
Everyone saying this has no idea what a groyper is. But I am numb to caring at this point. Every last American wants to feel like they know something special and unique about every notable event.
Aren’t groypers further right than charlie was, and had a tendency to refer to him as a fascist?
They’re dungeon dwellers who have no real values or principles other than trolling and being offensive. They’re not any kind of real movement, just an online clubhouse. A lot more people than them called Kirk a fascist, but we have a general public who really want to draw lines and find reasons for things.
nick fuetes groyper.
Was no one paying attention the first time Taco “won”? Lots of talk about groypers back then…
Doubt. You cant trust anything these cunts say
That’s some pretty impressive engraving.
Inscriptions on a fired casing read: “notices bulges” capital “O-W-O what’s this?”
Imagine having to say that at a press conference.
I’m curious if they spelled it out or just said the word owo
So to sum up, Charlie Kirk was downplaying gun violence in the US, and using a racist dogwhistle to do so, WHILE standing under a giant fucking “prove me wrong” banner, when he was shot with a bullet labeled “OWO what’s this?” by a Mormon cop’s kid from Utah (ie, whiter than raisins in potato salad).
That is an actual fucking series of events that actually fucking happened. We’ve gone past “the onion is reality” to “this would be too on the nose if it was an onion article and yet it’s somehow reality”.
this is very besides the point, but “whiter than raisins”?? i’m scared to ask, but how white are your raisins, americans?
edit: after further research, it seems like american raisins are not white either, in which case, wtf is this sayingNot whiter than raisins, whiter than “[putting] raisins in potato salad.” It’s a reference to cooking. Also, I’ve never seen anyone do thay and I’m from the US south, so…pretty white I guess.
I’d rather sandpaper a crocodile’s asshole in a phone booth
They said “whiter than raisins in potato salad.” It’s a meme saying that white people put raisins in potato salad.
There’s a book by street lit author Quan Millz called Becky Put Raisins in the Potato Salad. This is actually where I heard about it and I was like “ew! Raisins in potato salad??”
I’ve never seen a potato salad with raisins in it. Sounds gross.
The writers are really forcing it this season…
But… What is “O-W-O”?
It’s in the same family as UwU
I think Morty from Rick and Morty makes that face quite often if you want an animated rendition lol
It’s supposed to be a face. Don’t know the origin but it got popular through text roleplay shit, though folks say it phonetically now too.
Oh. Thanks!
*getting to say that at…
Hey can someone tell me what the fuck “transgender ideology” means? Because to me that phrase makes absolutely zero sense
I’m trans and I’ve yet to have anyone explain it to me.
Ahh Trump cleared that up today. “Transgender for everybody,” it’s one of the left’s demands. I guess it’s like abortions on demand, but like, everybody is given a gift bag of HRT at their next PCP visit. Here’s some estrogen and some narcan, go slay in today’s world girl.
It’s when they tell you to install Linux and put a lift kit on your 01 Tacoma.
TRN. That’s what was on the bullet. Which is a manufacturing mark.
Other things written on the bullets imply that the shooter idolizes Nick Fuentes, and is, in fact, somthing called a Groyper.
As a note, Nick Fuentes hated Charlie Kirk.
Honestly though, it’s reasonable for them to think it was trans related, considering Charlie’s rhetoric - we can’t expect the FBI to know what bullets looks like.
“Transgender ideology” is the outrageous radical belief that transgender people are people and deserve to be able to live their lives.
Reported
^ O GAWD. This one has been indoctrinated.
What?! When did they start doing this!?
Sometime prior to 2300BCE
Just right-wing drivel to discredit a minority they don’t understand. There’s not much to understand beyond that because them they don’t understand it themselves.
The other inscriptions on the fired casings:
“notices bulges”
capital “O-W-O what’s this?”
Inscriptions on the three unfired casings:
“hey fascist!” “catch!” Up arrow symbol, right arrow symbol, and three down arrow symbols.
“Oh Bella Ciao, Bella Ciao, Bella Ciao, Ciao, Ciao.”
“If you read this, you are gay LMAO.”
Also:
A Wall Street Journal report, citing an ATF bulletin, had previously said the casings were “engraved with expressions of transgender and antifascist ideology.” The purported transgender symbols were later understood to relate to markings identifying the manufacturer.
Is it at all possible that they were interpreting the “bulges” thing as trans related? Not to say that it is, but it seems more likely than the TRN thing.
This says that the “sequence of arrows” was interpreted as a transgender symbol.
Now we know that the sequence of arrows was “up, right, down, down, down”
…that’s the strategem code for the 500kg bomb in helldivers 2.
The ATF interpreted a video game reference as a transgender symbol…
The ATF interpreted
the atf interpreted a 14 inch shoelace with a loop in it as an automatic rifle. they can suck any one of my defective buttholes
embarrassing and irresponsible mistake from the ATF
Oh that’s kinda been their MO for as long as I can remember. It’s kinda their motto. Instead of educating anyone, they routinely do things like try to preach the horrific danger of detachable magazines as the dork tries to insert it backwards.
It’s also a straight up meme that they’ll conduct some half assed raid where they shoot someone’s dog and go “Whoops. Wrong address.”
They know less about firearms than your average airsofter or tactical gamer, but they’re an authoritarian arm on “regulating” the things so they’re usually the first to jump to wild, illiterate conclusions.
I think socialist gun owners and insufferably right wing gun nuts could probably high five over beers when it comes to their mutual sheer lack of respect for the ATF. Lol
I’m surprised they didn’t interpret the three arrows as antifa, they’re so fucking incompetent.
I mean I could almost see that? Helldivers is kinda a satire on the american brand of fascism so it could be argued its an anti-fascist peace of media. But that’s a stretch to say the least.
But my real issue with this is that federal investigators saw something they had absolutely no clue what it is and called it a transgender symbol. Its an incredible amount of bias in a particularly very bigoted way.
Reminds me of a lyric from The Clash - “taking off his turban, they said, ‘is this man a jew?’” They see something unknown to them and just assign it to the marginalized group they have a preconceived notion of being bad.
Ah and here I was hoping for the konami code
Yeah, missed opportunity but hey. Kids have their own things.
Sorry, there were multiple fired casings?
Just one fired casing, three unfired per the article.
They found the gun, no? So maybe they found the ammo as well
Right, but this says “fired casings” as in multiple fired casings. Wasn’t there only one shot fired?
As I understand it’s actually three unfired casings.
A Wall Street Journal report, citing an ATF bulletin, had previously said the casings were “engraved with expressions of transgender and antifascist ideology.” The transgender symbols were later understood to relate to markings identifying the manufacturer.
And a third unfired case read: “If you read this, you are gay LMAO.”
FBI director concludes speech with “Rest now, my brother, we have the watch, and I’ll see you at Valhalla”
Reality is satire
The FBI director is mistaken, no nazis in Valhalla.
As if Valhalla would open its doors to these pussies.
“I’ll see you in Valhalla”
Obvious Nazi dogwhistle is obvious.
Nazis are obsessed with Norse mythology.
A lot of the far right in fact.
This is true and as I am familiar with Norse mythology neither of them are eligible to go there.
He did not seriously say the valhalla line, did he? Please tell me that was actual satire?
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…The Aristocatts!
Fascists of all stripes have a weakness for Norse mythology.
Yeah, a weakness and no actual knowledge of Norse mythology. Some dumb fascists getting popped on a stage isn’t something Odin or Freyja gives a fuck about. They only get to Folkvangr or Valhalla if they die in combat. Most of these cowards will piss themselves if they ever see a battlefield.
Fun fact: christofascists are why most of Norse mythology is lost, everything that couldn’t be recast as part of the Christian world was violently suppressed
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Yeah I feel you. I’m fascinated with the early Indo-European past but so are heaps of fascists.
Something about an ever flowing cauldron of pork stew and a one eyed raven.
“Use the Force, Harry Potter” - Jean Luc Picard.
It was Gandalf of The Round Table who said it.
Forget it - he’s rolling
Who is this trans-ideology ammunition manufacturer?
Is trans ideology even a thing? I thought it was just people trying to live authentic lives?
Probably Turan - you can see that “TRN” is stamped onto their bullets.
Is trans ideology even a thing?
That’s called a Linux subreddit
I thought it was just people trying to live authentic lives?
It is
But fascists are trying to genocide us and will use any tool available to them
It should also be noted that “transgender ideology” is a term coined for and used in anti-trans political messaging to falsely equate identity with politics, which is a way to frame transgender identity as a political choice rather than an innate identity.
FBI director is a nutcase
Can we find the person who, for no apparent reason, interpreted manufacturers markings as apparent ‘trans ideology’ and ask him wtf that was supposed to accomplish? I mean if you don’t know what some markings mean, aside from blatant bias is there any possible way to get to ‘trans ideology’ from manufacturers markings? Are they using male/female icons? Emojis? Printing them in rainbow colors?
TRN. It’s the manufacturers code for a Turkish company called Turan. That’s what I heard at any rate.
Identifying that as trans is just rank incompetence. Anyone that stupid would be fired in a sane world. Under our fascist regime, new FBI director incoming.
Anyone that stupid would be fired in a sane world.
Kash fired every above that intelligence level. Sycophants and dipshits only from now on.
It sounds like someone had a theory and Patel went off before any research could be done. Not to defend the fbi but it sounds like they did what they are supposed to it’s Patel who keeps fucking up
I’m not a gun person but my understanding is that no one who’s looked at bullets could mistake a manufacturer’s imprint. Where it is and what it looks like preclude it being anything else. It would be like confusing a barcode for a brandname.
Talking about the engravings.
Ah, yep, fair enough. That is definitely more understandable as a preliminary theory that Patel should not have been mouthing off about yet.
When did “mind your own fucking business” become an ideology?
Bullshit
