We’ve been on a nation wide teacher shortage for 40 years now. The poorest school districts are lucky to have 50% trained teachers. The rest are people off the street that could pass a background check. (no degree needed) Not saying those individuals aren’t needed but being an effective teacher takes years of experience and schooling to teach effectively. We have more OF models in America than teachers.
being an effective teacher takes years of experience and schooling to teach effectively
I disagree. Some people make great teachers, and most people don’t.
Oh I get that 100% the good thing about a traditional path is that it weeds out a lot of individuals that really shouldn’t be teachers. And there are those individuals right off the street that take to teaching naturally. But those individuals probably had a career closely aligned with what they are teaching. (stay at home mom’s make amazing Pre-k and K teachers once their children leave the nest.) Those are few and far between. Track your local district’s lawsuits and regulations violations. A large share will be caused by emergency hires. Most are good people just put in a sink or swim situation when the support system is an already crumbling school system.
A dumb America keeps the billionaires fed
You can tell. It’s been obvious for years.
No cap.
Since “no child left behind”.
Teaching became all about the lowest common denominator and no matter what everybody moved to the next level.
Fail kids and you get less funding, because you “left one behind”. All it did was make a highschool graduation pointless. And because it didn’t mean anything, college became the new highschool, except it came with decades of debt.
This is horrible, but it’s not a failure. This is exactly what the wealthy has wanted for generations.
It’s why Linda McMahon is talking about dismantling the department of education. They want a bunch of idiots too dumb to realize they’re being gifted.
And in so doing, dig a hole for the entire nation as home grown talent and innovation dies.
But maybe that’s the point. They prefer the indentured servant status of H1B visas.
This is exactly what the wealthy has wanted for generations.
It’s not the wealthy contingent of the Republican coalition that has the major beef with federal involvement with education. It’s the social conservative contingent, which wants religious education, stuff like school vouchers so that they can use public funds to give their kids a religious education.
That’s gonna be hard for someone in a conservative state to do at the federal level, because a lot of people aren’t gonna go along with it. But if you have a conservative state and the decisions about fund allocation are done at the state level, then you may have a chance of running kids through a religious education on public funds.
A nation of slaves, irrespective of skin color.
Chattel slavery may have been abolished (in the US), but slavery is arguably still alive and well just in a much more complicated way, with a facade of “freedom”.
Most of us generally aren’t free. You’re “free” to quit the rat race and go live in the forest…? No. If you stop and don’t have money or someone else’s support, you die.
I mean, that’s the case everywhere in the world and always has been. If you go out and live in the woods you’re banking on your ability to find food and shelter yourself or you die.
Not defending the current system, but like, saying you’re not free until someone pays for your ability to live off-grid seems… silly?
Might as well say, “they say you’re free, but if you decide to shoot yourself in the head you just die and there’s nothing you can do about it. #WakeUpSheeple”
I just don’t see what kind of system you’re arguing for I guess.
For the first few hundred years of the western hemisphere, people literally went into the woods with some provisions and tools, and many of them survived and flourished. Sure plenty died but look at the result. The point is that now you can’t do that because someone owns all the land. Even the millions of hectares laying unused - and I don’t just mean parks and monuments. There are huge, enormous swaths of land laying unused and held by private owners, corporations, and trusts, because at one point hundreds of years ago, someone climbed a hill, looked at landmarks and decreed, “this land is mine” and went to the closest town to stake their claim. Even if there was land, you still need to buy said tools and provisions, and it’ll cost you now.
Fair enough, my wording was too simplistic. But I stand by what I said, and try to explain it better.
Generally in the US, you have no choice but to own a car. It’s significantly more difficult if you can’t except for a few outliers like NYC (public transport everywhere but much higher cost of living?).
It’s very difficult not to have a phone and internet, and be able to function in society, finding and keeping a job among other things.
It’s extremely difficult to be homeless or live in your car, not to mention very uncomfortable.
Health insurance premiums whether you need healthcare or not.
Most jobs are tied to a 40hr or more workweek. Some of which don’t pay enough necessitating second jobs. Overwork and exhaustion resulting in limited ability to gain skills to escape.
Energy industry: try living without oil, gas, electricity, etc. it’s impossible.
- transportation
- housing
- energy related, electricity
- phone, internet
- healthcare
My argument, is that these are every day extreme necessities, and they account for the vast majority of our expenses. We don’t have a choice to do without any single one of these (without severe hardship or external support). This is how we’re pseudo-enslaved. All of these things represent billions upon trillions of dollars of profit that mostly go to the elite. All of these above, should be completely socialized/nationalized and have the profit motive removed (as necessities).
Free market capitalism is fine for things like PS5s, BMWs, yachts, mansions, breast implants, and gold plated iPhones. People can work to get luxuries. But having basic necessities met (simple smart phone, clean housing, basic transportation, etc.) should be part of a civilized society. It would mean no more billionaires.
This doesn’t mean people should be able to sit around, do nothing, and get free stuff. Everyone should contribute. Some of the most important jobs like teaching kids, construction, nurses, etc. get shit pay, while billionaires play stock market games.
Honestly I think the concept is simple. There’s money to do all this. It’s just currently going to the wrong people.
In traditional US fashion, the policy did the exact opposite of the name.
As planned.
This right here. They want us dumb and stupid so we are easier to control. It is Vital to teach your children about resist and what to stand up for.
BREAKING NEWS : AMERICANS STUPID AND IN RUINS
wow
My states largest district is an online charter school/massive embezzling scheme. Self paced online classes, with a teacher that may/may not ever meet the student. I work with a client who just graduated from there.
They had no idea how to solve a one step algebra equation until today. Today we struggled through such exercises as “2x+4=8.”
I briefly worked for that school and had a high school student who had no idea what Christianity was. Really, the concept of religion in general was entirely new to him.
It feels deliberate. The in person/actual schools also suffer - students passed from class to class without knowing how to read or work with fractions, because it’s not even really necessary to have a bachelors degree to teach anymore. I guess it’s the kind of population that will grow up to vote R, to fall for whatever stupid shit the rich use to stay in power.
My only real hope is that the pendulum will swing back eventually. I at least hope that I will be able to personally take advantage when the need is recognized again, that at some point someone who can teach a high schooler logarithms is considered a valuable member of society worth paying a living wage.
It is deliberate.
As the article pointed out, the top 10% of students aren’t seeing major drops, it is mainly in the bottom marginal students who need more institutional help to get a better education.
If we’re deporting all these immigrants, the country is going to need a new underclass.
the country is going to need a new underclass.
Which is the old underclass? If you notice, most students ended up in service jobs anyways.
If anything, people are starting to wake up to what a waste of time and effort school is for the vast majority of students that are forced to attend.
But hey, it makes you feel good so I guess that counts for something.
If anything, people are starting to wake up to what a waste of time and effort school is for the vast majority of students that are forced to attend.
For a generation, it had a major impact on earnings for Americans. Even with the expense of college, there was a major differential in earnings between college and skilled trades.
Even now, the current education system doesn’t push people into skilled trades. It just lets them fail.
But hey, it makes you feel good so I guess that counts for something.
Why would this make me feel good? Identifying something happening doesn’t bring me joy.
I’m referring to forcing students to attend school even though the majority of them will end up in service jobs that don’t require the education they received.
For most of them, it is a waste of time. But you think they should still be forced to go because it makes you feel good.
There are a lot of skilled labor and some professions dealing with a massive labor shortage currently. Having an education system designed which could funnel kids into these fields would be very beneficial for them and society at large.
But we aren’t.
And we aren’t forcing them to study harder. We are letting them fail and we have the metrics to show how we are letting them fail. Does that make you feel better that we are letting people fail? That seems to be what you’re advocating for.
Does that make you feel better that we are letting people fail? That seems to be what you’re advocating for.
Probably because you can’t read, or you’re incapable of admitting you might have some wrong ideas. I’d wager it’s the latter.
These people aren’t “failing” because they don’t do well in school, just like people aren’t “succeeding” if they do well in school. We’re telling students that they’re failing or succeeding, but that’s all.
What you’re advocating for is a system where we destroy the self-esteem of most students by telling them they’re failures because they’re not cut out for academia. We’re not living in a Disney fairytale where everyone is “supposed” to go to college, or whatever metric for “success” you have in your head that’s dependent on academics.
You don’t seem like someone who has much world experience, so I suggest you get out there and see ways of life different from your own. You’ll find that many people who you thought were “failures” because they did poorly in school are actually quite successful and happy. Meanwhile, I’m sure you personally know many college graduates who are downright miserable. But hey, they “succeeded,” right?
What you’re advocating for is a system where we destroy the self-esteem of most students by telling them they’re failures because they’re not cut out for academia.
I’m not. It was a common occurrence in my time in college; my college had a 20% failure rate when I went there. Previous generations saw a failure rate closer to 33%. If anything, the fault rate has gone down since I’ve earned my degree.
Even then, it was generally accepted by those in college that those who flunked out weren’t bad people, they were just not ready for college at that point in their lives. I’ve got several friends who dropped out of college but built decent careers that didn’t need a college degree but was still skilled labor. With that, they still did well in high school and could transfer that body of knowledge to their current careers.
I never said that a college degree was a requirement for success, but that a dramatic loss in high school aptitude was concerning.
You don’t seem like someone who has much world experience, so I suggest you get out there and see ways of life different from your own.
Is that you reading through my comment history and trying to understand my life, or you over personalizing my reaction to a topic that is a sore spot for you and you dumping your trauma on my comment? Because, in my world experience, people who describe the world in the manner that you are trying to do are trying to make their experience the default experience when it may not be.
Your trauma may not be the default in life.
guess the previous gen is the real winner before braindead phones and AI fucked it all up
Just heard a piece today about AI that tangentially mentioned historic lows for “student engagement” – where kids are interested in learning rather than just sitting through their classes and waiting to leave. The main point was that using AI is not as simple as using calculators because students don’t learn to think when AI does all the work. AI removes the necessary pain of learning to put things together before a deadline.
Oh, and they were talking about some plan to replace teachers with AI instructors where adults would still be present, but not in charge of the learning. I guess the adults will just be there to mete out discipline?
Uneducated people are easier to manipulate.
About the fourth or fifth report like this I’ve seen. Always picking a grade level that suffered lack of school during covid. 4th graders are a recent pick. Seniors are a good pick too, losing out on 7th/8th grade.
The lesser thinking and reasoning capabilites of the masses the more thriving times for the most powerful ones, you are basically eliminating crucial defensive capacities of the population allowing a critical advantage in perpetuate the power monopoly of the few…
It’s ok Trump doesn’t believe in science anyway.
If they could read this, they’d be devastated!
Republicans: this trend is comforting.
No, they’re gonna weaponize this by saying “look at what DEI is doing to our schools!” or somehow funnel money to private schools and away from public schools.
That’s the point.
Once a stock price is involved, you’re just another line item on a spreadsheet; something to be minimized and managed as much as possible for the sake of maximizing profit.
You’re not a human being. You’re part of a collective metric called labour. And as such, they only need you to be as smart as you need to be to use the tools required for your job. Any smarter than that and they run the risk of losing control.
Ultimately, it’s why there has always been a conservartive demonization of the Liberal Arts (Ars Liberalis) and a large push to be the “party of the average joe” who likely goes to a trade school.
Lol explains all the anti vaxers and anti science maga idiots
No this is different.