Real question. I would like to know what drives you to hate Apple? (In terms of privacy of course because in terms of price it’s another story).
As a citizen of the world its because they are slavers and fuck slavery. One of the biggest lobbiest against fighting slavery too.
Having been friends and family IT though its because they suck. They suck to work on. They suck to devolop for. They suck to run server stuff on. They suck to game on. And they cost an arm and leg for the privilege.
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I really enjoy Apple products, but this is my biggest peeve. It’s not like I cannot manage without a different browser—certainly about half of americans primarily use Safari—but the flexibility and customization of Firefox or chromium would be very welcome.
Yehhh it’s interesting reading this thread but I’m on my still-super-fast five or six year old iPhone and my biggest complaint is I would LOVE to have an actual version of my beloved Firefox with plugins and whatnot. Firefox Focus works fine but it’s still WebKit. Safari works great with Wipr, vinegar, and baking soda but it’s no Firefox with ublock.
I use Adguard, vinegar and baking soda, but wasn’t aware of Wipr. I might give it a try as a replacement for Adguard. Glad you mentioned it.
It’s not perfect, but I do appreciate it when I’m away from my PiHole! It’s also hella cheap, which I appreciate. I should check out AdGuard too!
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This, Apple is very anti consumer and you have no freedom to use their devices how you want, only how apple wants.
They pioneered modern day planned obsolescence, they also popularised unrepairable electronics. They try to block or bastardise any right to repair bills. They force chip distributors to not sell chips they use so their products can’t be repaired. They make building applications for Mac at scale a huge pain in the ass and extremely expensive, the solution I recently built wastes insane amounts of power because of the way Apple licenses their stuff. Overall it’s a shitty company who fucks poor people in developing nations, fucks the environment and fucks it’s customers. I don’t care how well it may or may not work, fuck Apple.
Also OSX ui is shit and annoying.
I hate apple so much.
I really hate Iphones.Iphone, Iphone,
I fucking hate it
I hate it so much
I want to beat it wtih a stickIt’s such a slow-ass,
buggy piece of shit,
and everyone who works for Apple
can suck my fucking dickI want to punch it in the face
and shoot it in the head
and run it over with a steamroller
over and over, until it’s fucking deadI’m going to dig up Steve Jobs
and Piss on his bones
Because fuck him and everyone
with their stupid fucking Iphones.
- There are cheaper 3rd party (and also cheaper 1st party) charging options
- That wheels kit is clearly aimed at big businesses and not something a normal consumer would buy
There’s plenty of real things to complain about Apple, no need to be petty like this.
Not only the wheels, take a llook on their store and it’s hilarious prices for simple complements. Pitty that you must buy a charger apart for your phone which not even include it by default.
Sure, if I didn’t have 100 compatible chargers already from a variety of other products, and wasn’t willing to purchase 3rd party products, I’d have to buy a $20 adapter from Apple.
Also, I just checked and the latest Pixel comes with a cable but not a brick, same as the iPhone. Also Google’s cheapest power brick is $25, so it’s actually worse than Apple.
Got any real complaints?
“Other company is worst so Apple is in the clear”.Why are you shilling for a mega corp that doesn’t give a shit about you?
If the worst thing Apple ever did was sell some optional components no one needs to buy to use their core products for more than you think is reasonable, Apple would be a fantastic company.
I’m not shilling a mega corp, I’m calling out petty bullshit. You’re the one making Apple look good by complaining about petty bullshit. Find something real to complain about.
They kill off third party solutions shamelessly.
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You cant use standard parts in there hardware
You certainly can use 3rd party chargers
No you can’t really as lightning requires you to pay royalties to Apple. It isn’t a open connector. You can’t even get anything faster than USB2 speeds.
iPhones have USB-C now……
When I was going through college I had to work as a Microsoft salesperson in the largest commercial shop of my country. Basically I had to sell Windows laptops and ensure every purchase had a Microsoft office attached.
My stand was right next to Apple’s and I had a lot of Apple fan boys tease me saying how superior Apple hardware was, how fast and secure everything is. I felt that by having no experience with Apple devices I was not doing my work properly, I couldn’t personally disprove their experiences and opinions with my own. I ended up buying a 13 inch MacBook pro for 1300 euros, I believe. Since I worked at the shop they gave me a considerable discount, I’m unsure what the actual retail price was but certainly at least 1800 euros.
I felt robbed, to be honest. Using an Unix like system was nice, I always loved posix shells. Everything else was honesty a terrible experience. Why the hell do I need xcode to do anything? Why does git depend on xcode? Why is xcode no longer available for my machine directly from the store? Why is the store sooooo damn slow? Why am I forced to use Safari’s garbage engine, regardless of the browser I choose?
I understand the appeal of having an entire ecosystem of devices that play nice together but MacOS was the only operative system I tried that would actually get on the way of doing work for me personally. For 1300 euros I could have gotten a beast windows laptop at the time, with a nice dedicated GPU instead of that Intel integrated garbage card that can barely play a YouTube video without full speed fans.
A couple of months ago I ended up installing EndeavourOS on this MacBook and it honestly brought this laptop back to life. So much faster and I can finally go back to installing up to date browsers!
Hate is a very strong word, I don’t hate Apple. I just would not buy or recommend anyone to buy any of their products. They’re pretty, tho!
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Right to repair and own
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They own decryption keys
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Can’t use without an account so you can’t deGoogle or deApple them
You also can’t use anything but iMessage and you are stuck with Apple cloud
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Price is indeed part of it. If I’m paying that much I’m getting repairable and upgradable hardware.
I also hate their walled garden approach to everything. You can do X so long as apple has decided to allow you to do X. Things like no sideloading, no repair/upgradability, etc. I love Framework for instance and would like to see more stuff like it in the future.
And before you ask, yes I hate the other companies that do it too, they don’t get a pass but we’re talking apple right now.
As far as privacy goes, they’re better than windows imo but not by much and it’s only because windows is so bad, they still harvest your data but they target the ads instead of selling the data so others can target the ads. That is “better.” I guess. I still prefer linux which doesn’t even want your data (except anonymized bug reports if you opt in).
They are gate keeping
- Closed ecosystem ( like side loading apps, hardware locked/issues, privacy settings like VPN, browser etc are limited).
Very Pro China, gives away people’s privacy in China and are pro censorship, so they don’t lose their precious supplier.
Just gonna add a few here, that’s related to privacy & censorship
Apple removes Hong Kong protest app, Quartz news app following Chinese criticism https://www.techspot.com/news/82284-apple-removes-hong-kong-protest-app-quartz-news.html
Apple’s Compromises in China: 5 Takeaways https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/17/technology/apple-china-privacy-censorship.html
Apple limited a crucial AirDrop function in China just weeks before protests https://www.cnbc.com/2022/11/30/apple-limited-a-crucial-airdrop-function-in-china-just-weeks-before-protests.html
Apple has stored the data of thousands of customers on Chinese servers and censored apps https://www.businessinsider.com/apple-data-china-censors-apps-nyt-2021-5?op=1
Apple made secret 5-year $275B deal with Chinese government https://appleinsider.com/articles/21/12/07/apple-made-secret-5-year-275b-deal-with-chinese-government
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/18/technology/apple-whatsapp-china-app-store.html
over priced without a single good quality, aside from things that are personal preference like aesthetics and the layout of things and workflows which i also dont like but its whatever, by every objective measure imaginable apple is outdone by their competitors and their competition is cheaper, there is no point to buying anything apple unless u really like the personal preference stuff or ur an apple simp.
Anti-open(source), anti-open(standards) l, anti-consumer, anti-planet, anti-repair, anti-honest. What else do you need?
Anti-freedom
Profit-maximising
Literally killed the 3.5mm to increase profits
Acts holier than thou
If Apple had kept the 3.5mm port, we’d all probably still be having it on our phones and not have to deal with flimsy adapters.
i have it on my phone just fine, aint it crazy how cheaper phones have more features.
I don’t like closed systems, vendor lock-in, overpriced tools, or buying equipment that I’ll never truly own.
