the right to bear arms exists to protect people from tyrants
the whole premise of this right is that we can’t trust the government to keep our liberty safe because they could become the tyrants. if one day some religious idiot comes into power who doesn’t want women learning math, you may end up glad that conservatives have made it easier for women to fight for their liberty by refusing to allow these rights to be eroded
Bro thinks meal team six is going to stop the government lol. They are already taking our liberties. Why didn’t guns save us during banning abortion? Why are guns not helping us defend our freedom of speech? Do you think some random authoritarian fucks are legitimately willing to fight the government over political differences? What liberties have they not taken already, or that they cannot take? If in some unrealistic scenario where the boomers won a small fight in some small town, do you think the government would just let them be? Do you not think the authoritarian fucks would use their guns to defend the government vs fight against it? They already use their votes to suppress our liberties, I have no doubt they’d choose to use their guns too.
Conservatives would be the first to call anyone participating in the uprising unamerican and would be more likely to form reactionary militias supportive of the fascist government than to overthrow anything
Hadis Najafi was a feminist. A world hero. I hope one day in a brave new feminist world, she has a holiday. I wish I had met her. I’d give anything to have met her. I don’t believe in an afterlife, but if heaven were real I would get to meet her. How can one person be so courageous?
She fought without being armed because she was a hero and she couldn’t not fight. She had enough and said fuck it, I know I’m going to die and don’t care. Heros fight even when the odds aren’t great.
You think it’s bad now?
Don’t be myopic. This is a woman who would have been a hero with our without weapons, but she could have done more if she had the right to bare arms.
Yes, it matters and the NRA matters and feminism matters and the solution is making sure women have more and larger guns and better tactical training.
Is there such a thing? Is there a left wing organization battling for the rights of women to own any weapon she pleases? If so, please enlighten me on this.
Unsurprisingly the political organization whose power comes from private funding is the one backing right wing fascist bullshit. You’re not going to find a left wing organization with the same resources because it won’t have corporate political backing.
Anarchists and other leftists (leftists, not liberals) are typically pro-gun and for the reasons you mention
the right to bear arms exists to protect people from tyrants
This is a complete fiction, a true American mythology that exists in the modern day.
The right to bear arms was more about homestead defense against indigenous natives and foreign invading armies than it was for any kind of poison pill for Americans to topple their own government if they woke up one day and decided they don’t like who’s in charge anymore. The very notion that the founders would set up a new system of governance but be okay with the idea of baking in gun ownership rights to ensure that the people will always be able to conduct a violent insurrection as the vehicle for regime change is absurd.
Everybody likes to ignore the “well-regulated militia” part of that amendment, conveniently ignoring that a well regulated militia would answer to the state or the federal government, the very force of tyranny that they claim they need the guns to defend themselves against.
Religious tyrants have gotten into power, they are forcing women into service as incubators. Nobody sane has taken up arms against the government. It is the “conservatives” who are fighting at the ballot box to erode our liberties and human rights.
“Conservatives” want to elect an openly racist demagogue who already committed a putsch and is asking SCOTUS to hand him a Long Knife.
LOL “conservatives” refusing to allow rights to be eroded. Yeah buddy, the women are going to force their way into math class holding the teacher at gunpoint.
Nice theory, but owning a gun makes you less safe, not more. You are way more likely to be hurt by your own gun than successfully using it to defend yourself.
your statistics don’t know who i live with, who lives next door, or how corrupt my government is. and, as samuel clemons said, there are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics.
Conservatives in power currently want to take away a woman’s right to a divorce. Your argument literally moves the Overton window to the right even further.
And giving tyrants access to a standing army is immoral in itself.
I agree with the first part. It was supposed to be a check and balance to government power and oppression. It gives people the power to fight back against injustice.
However, in the time of intercontinental missiles, planes, tanks, and remote operated drones, are a bunch of peasants with guns actually going to do anything if the government turned on its people? Does the “right to bear arms” not extend to other, non-gun weapons?
Well, of course it wasn’t just the rifle. But my point was that low-tech armaments (and terrain to an extent) didn’t make it a walk in the park no matter how high-tech your military. You still have to hold it.
yes, only people with the luxury of owning guns could understand the terror of being unarmed
just because conservatives fight for a right doesn’t mean it’s bad. this is the 1 thing conservatives are right about
the problem is liberals don’t take this as opportunity to promote more female gun ownership and tactical training. a society of armed women is a society of women who will learn math and possess their own bodies
I’ll remind my daughter next time she calls me having a panic attack during an active shooter lockdown that at least she still has the right to love who she wantsmake her own reproductive healthcare choicesget IVF if she can’t have kidsbe open and honest about who she is
teach your daughter to use weapons, allow weapons in schools, and let her destroy anyone who attacks her.
i am sorry religious idiots are taking away her rights. these idiots are luring in many supporters because they support the second amendment. liberals need to start being pro-gun and get these religious idiots out of power
the right to bear arms exists to protect people from tyrants
Don’t you have that backwards? Gun ownership is a luxury enjoyed by an enfranchised society enjoyed exclusively by people who don’t feel threatened?
Because I remember a whole era of us domestic policy that revolved around targeting POC and other marginalized groups with gun regulation, while letting white nationalist groups run rampant.
Gun rights strike me as a political fiction. You only really get to enjoy them if you’re not threatened by over-policing. As soon as you start asserting those rights against a government bureaucrat, they vanish.
the right to bear arms exists to protect people from tyrants
the whole premise of this right is that we can’t trust the government to keep our liberty safe because they could become the tyrants. if one day some religious idiot comes into power who doesn’t want women learning math, you may end up glad that conservatives have made it easier for women to fight for their liberty by refusing to allow these rights to be eroded
The government has set up all mechanisms to target any resistance group trying to organise a violent revolution
Unless one man is going to take down the throne, guns will hardly achieve anything.
Bro thinks meal team six is going to stop the government lol. They are already taking our liberties. Why didn’t guns save us during banning abortion? Why are guns not helping us defend our freedom of speech? Do you think some random authoritarian fucks are legitimately willing to fight the government over political differences? What liberties have they not taken already, or that they cannot take? If in some unrealistic scenario where the boomers won a small fight in some small town, do you think the government would just let them be? Do you not think the authoritarian fucks would use their guns to defend the government vs fight against it? They already use their votes to suppress our liberties, I have no doubt they’d choose to use their guns too.
Conservatives would be the first to call anyone participating in the uprising unamerican and would be more likely to form reactionary militias supportive of the fascist government than to overthrow anything
Hadis Najafi was a feminist. A world hero. I hope one day in a brave new feminist world, she has a holiday. I wish I had met her. I’d give anything to have met her. I don’t believe in an afterlife, but if heaven were real I would get to meet her. How can one person be so courageous?
She fought without being armed because she was a hero and she couldn’t not fight. She had enough and said fuck it, I know I’m going to die and don’t care. Heros fight even when the odds aren’t great.
You think it’s bad now?
Don’t be myopic. This is a woman who would have been a hero with our without weapons, but she could have done more if she had the right to bare arms.
Yes, it matters and the NRA matters and feminism matters and the solution is making sure women have more and larger guns and better tactical training.
No the NRA doesn’t matter, right wing support of weapons doesn’t matter. The left wing support of weapons matters.
Is there such a thing? Is there a left wing organization battling for the rights of women to own any weapon she pleases? If so, please enlighten me on this.
Unsurprisingly the political organization whose power comes from private funding is the one backing right wing fascist bullshit. You’re not going to find a left wing organization with the same resources because it won’t have corporate political backing.
Anarchists and other leftists (leftists, not liberals) are typically pro-gun and for the reasons you mention
This is a complete fiction, a true American mythology that exists in the modern day.
The right to bear arms was more about homestead defense against indigenous natives and foreign invading armies than it was for any kind of poison pill for Americans to topple their own government if they woke up one day and decided they don’t like who’s in charge anymore. The very notion that the founders would set up a new system of governance but be okay with the idea of baking in gun ownership rights to ensure that the people will always be able to conduct a violent insurrection as the vehicle for regime change is absurd.
Everybody likes to ignore the “well-regulated militia” part of that amendment, conveniently ignoring that a well regulated militia would answer to the state or the federal government, the very force of tyranny that they claim they need the guns to defend themselves against.
Religious tyrants have gotten into power, they are forcing women into service as incubators. Nobody sane has taken up arms against the government. It is the “conservatives” who are fighting at the ballot box to erode our liberties and human rights.
“Conservatives” want to elect an openly racist demagogue who already committed a putsch and is asking SCOTUS to hand him a Long Knife.
LOL “conservatives” refusing to allow rights to be eroded. Yeah buddy, the women are going to force their way into math class holding the teacher at gunpoint.
things are bad now. it doesnt mean they cant get worse
I agree. Hopefully people don’t vote for the “conservatives” who do keep making everything worse.
“these rights”. They are specifying gun control isn’t eroding
Point a gun at a government official and see how fast they wither
Having legal authority over one’s own body autonomy is pretty foundational to gun rights, believe it or not.
And yet, it’s the would-be tyrants who are armed to the teeth.
this is why more young feminists need to support gun ownership and learn how to use weapons
women should be able to choose what they want to wear, the type of weapons they want to own, and what to do with their bodies
the NRA needs to stop being thought of as conservative and liberals need to embrace the NRA
Guns are for weak people who want to feel powerful.
guns are for vulnerable people who want to ensure their own safety.
Nice theory, but owning a gun makes you less safe, not more. You are way more likely to be hurt by your own gun than successfully using it to defend yourself.
you don’t know my circumstances or anyone else’s.
It has nothing to do with circumstances, it’s plain statistics. Look up the numbers.
your statistics don’t know who i live with, who lives next door, or how corrupt my government is. and, as samuel clemons said, there are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics.
Why are you insisting we turn everything into an active war zone
Conservatives in power currently want to take away a woman’s right to a divorce. Your argument literally moves the Overton window to the right even further.
And giving tyrants access to a standing army is immoral in itself.
I agree with the first part. It was supposed to be a check and balance to government power and oppression. It gives people the power to fight back against injustice.
However, in the time of intercontinental missiles, planes, tanks, and remote operated drones, are a bunch of peasants with guns actually going to do anything if the government turned on its people? Does the “right to bear arms” not extend to other, non-gun weapons?
Afghanistan.
If ever there was a case for “more guns = more freedom”, right?
Taliban or not, the peasants made it impossible for both Russia and the US to hold for any period of time using a pretty ancient rifle.
I think the IEDs, suicide bombers, and RPGs made a bigger difference in both cases
Well, of course it wasn’t just the rifle. But my point was that low-tech armaments (and terrain to an extent) didn’t make it a walk in the park no matter how high-tech your military. You still have to hold it.
What made it possible was the Afghans being a bit mental and passionate, as opposed to your average American shitebag coward
Guns would at least cause some difficulty oppressing people.
Gun owners are literally the most cowardly people on the planet
Yous are scared of your own fucking shadows
“Whatcha scared of, coward?” “Uh, just other cowards is all” 😂
I don’t own a gun. I’m from a country where it’s not an option. To assume makes an ASS out of u and me.
Your point is bullshit. Not all people are good. Rapists exist. Serial killers exist. I’d like some options if I ever ran into one.
yes, only people with the luxury of owning guns could understand the terror of being unarmed
just because conservatives fight for a right doesn’t mean it’s bad. this is the 1 thing conservatives are right about
the problem is liberals don’t take this as opportunity to promote more female gun ownership and tactical training. a society of armed women is a society of women who will learn math and possess their own bodies
Imagine a world in which men could not own guns…
But women and intersex persons were given as many guns as they wanted for free.
What would it be like?
Probably better.
you get it
Yeah, you’re bringing guns to an unmanned drone fight.
I’ll remind my daughter next time she calls me having a panic attack during an active shooter lockdown that at least she still has the right to
love who she wantsmake her own reproductive healthcare choicesget IVF if she can’t have kidsbe open and honest about who she isteach your daughter to use weapons, allow weapons in schools, and let her destroy anyone who attacks her.
i am sorry religious idiots are taking away her rights. these idiots are luring in many supporters because they support the second amendment. liberals need to start being pro-gun and get these religious idiots out of power
Don’t you have that backwards? Gun ownership is a luxury enjoyed by an enfranchised society enjoyed exclusively by people who don’t feel threatened?
Because I remember a whole era of us domestic policy that revolved around targeting POC and other marginalized groups with gun regulation, while letting white nationalist groups run rampant.
Gun rights strike me as a political fiction. You only really get to enjoy them if you’re not threatened by over-policing. As soon as you start asserting those rights against a government bureaucrat, they vanish.
i think there should be zero regulations on POC owning guns and all POC should have a natural right to ownership
Wouldn’t it be nice…