Russian President Vladimir Putin promised Friday to 'immediately' order a ceasefire in Ukraine and begin negotiations if Kyiv started withdrawing troops from the four regions annexed by Moscow in 2022 and renounced plans to join NATO.
Sounds like we’re in agreement that Russia broke the ceasefire by invading.
Not really, no. A ceasefire becomes void when on of those who agreed to it starts, you know, firing.
It doesn’t matter whether Germany was forbidden from “assisting” Ukraine, the point is that it is openly known that the West had no intention of honoring the agreements and used them only as a ploy. If you want to cynically claim ‘that’s just shrewd military tactics, it’s Russia’s own fault for believing NATO/Ukraine’s coup regime promises, ceasefires don’t mean shit, lol!’ then fine, but you can’t then hold the position that Russia are the ones who can’t be trusted with agreements or that they are the ones who broke the agreements.
There was nothing in the Minsk agreement that said Ukraine couldn’t defend itself from future invasions.
There was plenty in there about not continuing to shell Donetsk, which of course they did, frequently killing civilians.
Who started firing first? Russian-led militants took the town of Debaltseve by force six days after the agreement was signed.
The shelling was in response to Russian-led forces in Donetsk launching attacks with tanks mortars and artillery that also killed civilians. It seems like you’re upset about Ukraine defending themselves while hand-waving the role Russia played in instigating and perpetuating the conflict by invading sovereign territory with their military.
Not really, no. A ceasefire becomes void when on of those who agreed to it starts, you know, firing.
It doesn’t matter whether Germany was forbidden from “assisting” Ukraine, the point is that it is openly known that the West had no intention of honoring the agreements and used them only as a ploy. If you want to cynically claim ‘that’s just shrewd military tactics, it’s Russia’s own fault for believing NATO/Ukraine’s coup regime promises, ceasefires don’t mean shit, lol!’ then fine, but you can’t then hold the position that Russia are the ones who can’t be trusted with agreements or that they are the ones who broke the agreements.
There was plenty in there about not continuing to shell Donetsk, which of course they did, frequently killing civilians.
Who started firing first? Russian-led militants took the town of Debaltseve by force six days after the agreement was signed.
The shelling was in response to Russian-led forces in Donetsk launching attacks with tanks mortars and artillery that also killed civilians. It seems like you’re upset about Ukraine defending themselves while hand-waving the role Russia played in instigating and perpetuating the conflict by invading sovereign territory with their military.