and additionally had a friend at home sick who was peltering them with a continuous rant about everything and nothing, three words at time.
Somehow I think everyone has that one motherfucker in their contacts list who always does this. I do. I have to mute his stupid ass and check up later, otherwise my phone will vibrate continuously for about half an hour every time a stray thought crosses his mind.
damn 1 phone call a minute? Are they running an election or something?
I have always felt that kids will get out of education what they put in/their interest in actually learning. I also think there is some benefits to learning how to manage technology de jure as it’s likely to come up when they’re out of high school too.
I kind of disagree with some of the points about learning more just talking to an AI, both because I tend to get wrong answers or important missed context in my AI testing, but also because I think I needed to learn some stuff I wasn’t interested in personally.
Today I don’t really have much opportunity to interact with classes beyond the great courses and linked in learning, and unfortunately much of the newer content is more like a YouTube curated Playlist than a traditional course. They are mostly superficial overviews more intended for entertainment than learning details.
YouTube on the other hand is all over the map and you have to know what to search for.
I think some value of the experiment is the part where it got the kids to review their notification settings to suppress things they weren’t interested in. Personally I think having phones in airplane mode / off during class is probably the best plan. Do the notifications during study hall, lunch, bus ride, and other free time.
This is the summary of all the notifications received by each of the students. According to the article we don’t know how many students there were for that specific source image.
Where does it say that?
31 (32?) phone calls over 30 minutes. You do the math.
Oh, I see it now, it’s from the picture that went viral. Yeah, that’s been criticized for having poor methods. I don’t see that the replication reported any phone calls at all.
Sorry, I was too busy checking my phone to learn algebra.
Notifications stress me out (I stripped them down to the point were I get very few) and this article is raising my blood pressure.
Best thing I did for my phone induced stress is get an old Pebble smartwatch, choose the few apps/contacts I want to get notified instantly to vibrate on the watch and set my phone itself on silent permanently.
I switched to Niagara launcher. Set all notifications to silent so they only appear in the shade and then i can only see the inline notification of the handful of fav apps pinned. It’s been so wonderful to just ignore my phone.
Oooo I hadn’t heard of Niagara launcher before. It looks really beautiful!
You paint a beautiful picture, and I’ve been meaning to switch off Nova Launcher since they got bought by an analytics company. I’m going to have to try this out, thanks.
Nova got bought? Is that what happened to them? :(
Yeah. It’s been almost 2 years now but I only heard about it a couple months ago.
Why are you linking to lesswrong
What is lesswrong and why should they avoid linking it? It looks like a forum of sorts with a somewhat pretentious code of conduct but nothing to avoid on principle.
I get notifications for calls (obviously), SMS messages (of which I receive an average of 1 per month) and IMs from my immediate family. Everything else I check up on when I actually feel like I have the time for it. This has dramatically reduced the number of emails and other things I forget to reply to/act on, because I see them when I want to and when I have the time to actually deal with them; not when some random notification pops up when I’m doing something else, gets half-noticed and swiped away because I’ll deal with it later.
This is what notification profiles were built for. Set it to work/school/whatever and select who you want to get through and notifications are delivered, all else are silenced.
I even have one called “Blackout”. Nothing gets through, no one is approved, everything is silenced—for when I absolutely must not be disturbed.
Take away their phones ffs. Put them all in a box until class is over. If they are not on DnD for the duration of class, they will be confiscated for another period. Like… Let’s go. Let’s parent these mfs.
Didn’t read the article, did you? It talks about that.
It was quite long. This is what I could find at the end while skimming again.
I asked if they thought education would be improved on campus if phones were forcibly locked away for the duration of the school day. Only one student gave me so much as an affirmative nod!
Among students, the consensus was that kids generally tune into school at the level they care to, and that a phone doesn’t change that. A disinterested student without a phone will just tune out in some other way. They also put forth the idea that the quality of the teacher has a lot to do with how much they’ll tune in. This take had broad support.
🤷♂️ If it’s a problem or distraction it’s gotta go away. But of course it’s not the only factor. I didn’t grow up with notifications in class but I was very distracted still. But a phone would not have helped me, let’s just say that.
