First and foremost, amanita is not psychedelic. It’s like getting drunk but instead of getting belligerent and what have you, you get Alice in Wonderland syndrome. Heavier doses are a little bit more like alcohol and way too much diphenhydramine… Where it really shines though is when you use a responsible dose as a dream drug.
Secondly, most of the companies making these amanita products are putting research chemicals in their products. There’s no real way to know what you’re getting. Some of them put synthetic muscimol and ibotenic acid in them, which is also a problem as synthetic ibotenic acid is quite neurotoxic.
If you really want to go down the amanita route, just get the actual mushrooms or have a super reliable source. I personally am a huge fan but the effects are crazy sometimes and it’s seriously not for everyone.
I don’t recall the article claiming it was a psychedelic. They just claimed the LD50 is lower than fentanyl. Do you have evidence to the contrary? I’m not really sure which part of the article you’re trying to debunk or disagree with
One wouldn’t be too foolish to assume that a “psychedelic mushroom alternative” would be psychedelic. Fact of the matter is, these mushrooms are not even close to a psychedelic and to advertise them as such is scam levels of misleading.
Furthermore, lately amanitas are being proven very useful for benzo withdrawal and recovery. Now, I do not disagree with knowing everything about a substance and the science behind it… But come on! They’re comparing it to fentanyl in the article! Things like that are only going to get them made illegal and stigmatized. This makes medical research harder to do and takes potential medicine away from the people who could actually use it!
Other than that, I was mostly just trying to give the people who clicked the thing some straight information. If they’re clicking the thing they’re likely already intrigued by it or psychedelics.
I wasn’t particularly intending to attack the article in any way other than the premise set by the title. I personally really enjoy amanitas but their effects aren’t exactly what most people are looking for.
I’m not having an argument about semantics with you. I am simply a lover of amanitas trying to spread information. Have a nice day or whatever the fuck.
Emerging Psychedelic Mushroom Alternative More Toxic Than Fentanyl, New Research Suggests
Does not make that claim. It is also written in a way that can be confused with saying that amanita is psychedelic. However, reading the article makes it easier to understand the word vomit of that title better.
They’re referencing the study, but not making any specific claims in the title other than “people are using a psychedelic alternative mushroom that’s more toxic than fentanyl.”
When I hear “psychedelic mushroom alternative” I think 4-aco-dmt (a psilocybin analogue), or some other psychedelic that’s cheaper or easier to get than shrooms. It’s surprising to me that it’s referencing a totally different drug with totally different effects. I’d be about as surprised if someone called alcohol or weed a “psychedelic alternative”
First and foremost, amanita is not psychedelic. It’s like getting drunk but instead of getting belligerent and what have you, you get Alice in Wonderland syndrome. Heavier doses are a little bit more like alcohol and way too much diphenhydramine… Where it really shines though is when you use a responsible dose as a dream drug.
Secondly, most of the companies making these amanita products are putting research chemicals in their products. There’s no real way to know what you’re getting. Some of them put synthetic muscimol and ibotenic acid in them, which is also a problem as synthetic ibotenic acid is quite neurotoxic.
If you really want to go down the amanita route, just get the actual mushrooms or have a super reliable source. I personally am a huge fan but the effects are crazy sometimes and it’s seriously not for everyone.
“Psychedelic mushroom alternative”
I don’t recall the article claiming it was a psychedelic. They just claimed the LD50 is lower than fentanyl. Do you have evidence to the contrary? I’m not really sure which part of the article you’re trying to debunk or disagree with
The title
The title does not claim it is a psychedelic. I quoted the title. The article is about people using it as an alternative to psychedelic substances.
The title makes the claim that the LD50 is lower.
One wouldn’t be too foolish to assume that a “psychedelic mushroom alternative” would be psychedelic. Fact of the matter is, these mushrooms are not even close to a psychedelic and to advertise them as such is scam levels of misleading.
Furthermore, lately amanitas are being proven very useful for benzo withdrawal and recovery. Now, I do not disagree with knowing everything about a substance and the science behind it… But come on! They’re comparing it to fentanyl in the article! Things like that are only going to get them made illegal and stigmatized. This makes medical research harder to do and takes potential medicine away from the people who could actually use it!
Other than that, I was mostly just trying to give the people who clicked the thing some straight information. If they’re clicking the thing they’re likely already intrigued by it or psychedelics.
I wasn’t particularly intending to attack the article in any way other than the premise set by the title. I personally really enjoy amanitas but their effects aren’t exactly what most people are looking for.
It is compared to fentanyl because the lethal dose is lower. I’m still not hearing what you think is inaccurate here
I’m not having an argument about semantics with you. I am simply a lover of amanitas trying to spread information. Have a nice day or whatever the fuck.
Spreading misinformation, apparently? There’s no semantics in “lethal dosage”
I said good day.
The title:
Does not make that claim. It is also written in a way that can be confused with saying that amanita is psychedelic. However, reading the article makes it easier to understand the word vomit of that title better.
That is exactly the claim the title is making? The LD50 is the entire point. What other metric could those words be referencing?
They’re referencing the study, but not making any specific claims in the title other than “people are using a psychedelic alternative mushroom that’s more toxic than fentanyl.”
It’s more toxic than fentanyl, yes… that’s the claim? I’m confused haha.
Are you saying the headline is not about toxicity?
When I hear “psychedelic mushroom alternative” I think 4-aco-dmt (a psilocybin analogue), or some other psychedelic that’s cheaper or easier to get than shrooms. It’s surprising to me that it’s referencing a totally different drug with totally different effects. I’d be about as surprised if someone called alcohol or weed a “psychedelic alternative”